Claydon Hybrid and Beans!

[Bps]

Take a well worn set of A shares and cut the wing tips off, and you have a set of spring bean shares and all you need to buy are the open seeder boots.

 

[average farmer]

Take a well worn set of A shares and cut the wing tips off, and you have a set of spring bean shares and all you need to buy are the open seeder boots.

Drilled mine with the standard splitter boot this year with no problems at all. Not cut them yet!!

 

[reb1952]

IIRC, the leading tine wants to be in about 150mm (about 6 inches) and the seeding tines wants to be about 1.5-2 inches

Is that correct @charlie@claydon

Thanks I wondered whether the leading tine was working deeper than beans were being placed.

 

[nick channer]

I think spring beans sound the best to dip our toe in the water, as the winter bean knife and chute are a big investment if it only ends up as a one off! Whereas the 3in spoon and open chute could also be used for OSR.
When did you plant your spring crop?

don't bother buying 3inch spoons
just cut down your worn out a shares with a grinder or gas torch
we drilled spring beans into old pasture and yielded 1.2 ton acre which I was pleased with as ground not cropped or touched in 15 yrs sold them off combine at £210 ton non assured
did better than some our w barley ground.
now drilled with wwheat and went in beautifully
just gotta pray wire worm doesn't wipe it out

 

[YELROM]

don't bother buying 3inch spoons
just cut down your worn out a shares with a grinder or gas torch
we drilled spring beans into old pasture and yielded 1.2 ton acre which I was pleased with as ground not cropped or touched in 15 yrs sold them off combine at £210 ton non assured
did better than some our w barley ground.
now drilled with wwheat and went in beautifully
just gotta pray wire worm doesn't wipe it out

Have you sprayed with dursban?

 

[nick channer]

Have you sprayed with dursban?

No
Seed treated with austral plus
Thought Dursban took out leather jackets mainly??

 

[Niels]

Going to drill winter beans for the first time (also first time EVER it's being grown in Holland) with an Claydon Hybrid so great to find some advice here! We do have a set of smaller A shares and seed boots but now puzzled if we should bother to fit them.. reading comments on here. Although I won't be grinding my wings off the A-share! Like to keep them apiece and use for drilling straight into grass leys.

 

[Niels]

Well, as said previously we ventured into the Dutch winter bean adventure. Been drilling them last Saturday at 20c, sun and wind! Will probably be a first and last we get this fine weather during drilling. Variety is Tundra from Limagrain, imported from the UK. Drilled 150kg/ha. We had intended to drill them directly in fixed wheat stubble with the Claydon Hybrid. However, this is very very heavy and very wet clay soil, the tractor and drill wouldn't move an inch. Then resorted to the other half of the field which had been subsoiled and power harrowed early September and weathered nicely on the top. Managed to plant them the requested 10-12cm (4-5 inches). We wanted them in deep as we fear frost might get the better of them. Lot more soil disturbance than I had wished for. Used a worn A-share and the bean coulter. Splitter boot only got stuck. 170 hp New Holland drilled them OK at around 5km. Covering the seed behind the wheels was an issue. As it was such nice weather we decided to power harrow the field afterwards to cover the seed. Will also help get a better herbicide control hopefully.

Bit puzzled what to do on this farm with very heavy clay. Soil just sits wet and never dries up. All the subsoiled and combi drilled stuff looks perfect. The direct drilled fields (Claydon) not so perfect. Having to decompose lots of straw takes a strain on the crop. This soil needs some serious attention with cover crops, lime and chopped straw I think. Also a more diverse cropping rather than continuous wheat (field has been wheat since 2001). Also still have the stubble now.. Will probably subsoil if we get a chance and leave it to dry. Hopefully drill spring beans in March with a conventional drill.

 

[Andrew K]

Niels,

Its probably a drainage thing, if the field drains/ ditches are good i would help things a little by using a low disturbance subsoiler when dry to get water away.
You could also reduce straw burden by either baling, chopping higher or altering rotation. I would still use the Claydon in the spring, maybe with Twin tine kit?

 

[Fuzzy]

Well, as said previously we ventured into the Dutch winter bean adventure. Been drilling them last Saturday at 20c, sun and wind! Will probably be a first and last we get this fine weather during drilling. Variety is Tundra from Limagrain, imported from the UK. Drilled 150kg/ha. We had intended to drill them directly in fixed wheat stubble with the Claydon Hybrid. However, this is very very heavy and very wet clay soil, the tractor and drill wouldn't move an inch. Then resorted to the other half of the field which had been subsoiled and power harrowed early September and weathered nicely on the top. Managed to plant them the requested 10-12cm (4-5 inches). We wanted them in deep as we fear frost might get the better of them. Lot more soil disturbance than I had wished for. Used a worn A-share and the bean coulter. Splitter boot only got stuck. 170 hp New Holland drilled them OK at around 5km. Covering the seed behind the wheels was an issue. As it was such nice weather we decided to power harrow the field afterwards to cover the seed. Will also help get a better herbicide control hopefully.

Bit puzzled what to do on this farm with very heavy clay. Soil just sits wet and never dries up. All the subsoiled and combi drilled stuff looks perfect. The direct drilled fields (Claydon) not so perfect. Having to decompose lots of straw takes a strain on the crop. This soil needs some serious attention with cover crops, lime and chopped straw I think. Also a more diverse cropping rather than continuous wheat (field has been wheat since 2001). Also still have the stubble now.. Will probably subsoil if we get a chance and leave it to dry. Hopefully drill spring beans in March with a conventional drill.

I suggest using the bean share or 3" spoon rather than the A share. You will then get less disturbance and find it easier to cover the slots. Also are you using paddles or Z tines on the rear ?

 

[Niels]

@Fuzzy Thanks for your reply. Sadly we didn't have the bean share or 3" spoon available so had to do with what was there. A-share was well worn though. We used both the paddles and the Z-tines.

 

[Niels]

Niels,

Its probably a drainage thing, if the field drains/ ditches are good i would help things a little by using a low disturbance subsoiler when dry to get water away.
You could also reduce straw burden by either baling, chopping higher or altering rotation. I would still use the Claydon in the spring, maybe with Twin tine kit?

The drainage on this field is fine and so are the ditches. We tried to subsoil it this week but same to the Claydon tractor just sat in the field and nothing moved! 170 hp won't pull it even at a shallow depth.

When you get 7t/ha of straw it certainly should be baled but the field is low in OM and the system is that you chop the straw so we did. Next time it will be baled. Was cut a foot high! We will try and use the Claydon in the spring but late Feb/early Mach it probably won't be dry enough. Can try and ship in a twin tine kit.