Coal Burning, Last Power Station And Large Scale Steel Making Ends Today, Any Thing To Be Proud Of?

[bluebell]

My opinion, not at all, in fact we should be quite sad and angry, another massive blow to industry? Oh the middle class luvies those who seem to all work for the govt, rub and congratilate each other, as whats left of large scale industry is left to die, on the very naive vison of the green revolution, while we import more? What a country?

 

[delilah]

Plenty to be proud of.
There's far more jobs in renewables and the other three r's - reduce, reuse, recycle - than in digging stuff out the ground and burning/smelting it.
Damned sight better for human health too; anyone on here volunteering to go back to chucking fusty hay about all day ? Yet you want to send folks back down the pit ?
Yes, it could be managed better - shutting the steelworks before the electric furnaces are up and running is as bad as Maggie showing such disregard for pit villages - but the broad principle of moving towards circular rather than linear means of production is sound.

 

[Bald Rick]

Plenty to be proud of.
There's far more jobs in renewables and the other three r's - reduce, reuse, recycle - than in digging stuff out the ground and burning/smelting it.
Damned sight better for human health too; anyone on here volunteering to go back to chucking fusty hay about all day ? Yet you want to send folks back down the pit ?
Yes, it could be managed better - shutting the steelworks before the electric furnaces are up and running is as bad as Maggie showing such disregard for pit villages - but the broad principle of moving towards circular rather than linear means of production is sound.

Rome fiddles whilst China burns springs to mind though

 

[glasshouse]

Plenty to be proud of.
There's far more jobs in renewables and the other three r's - reduce, reuse, recycle - than in digging stuff out the ground and burning/smelting it.
Damned sight better for human health too; anyone on here volunteering to go back to chucking fusty hay about all day ? Yet you want to send folks back down the pit ?
Yes, it could be managed better - shutting the steelworks before the electric furnaces are up and running is as bad as Maggie showing such disregard for pit villages - but the broad principle of moving towards circular rather than linear means of production is sound.

Pish

 

[BrianV]

Plenty to be proud of.
There's far more jobs in renewables and the other three r's - reduce, reuse, recycle - than in digging stuff out the ground and burning/smelting it.
Damned sight better for human health too; anyone on here volunteering to go back to chucking fusty hay about all day ? Yet you want to send folks back down the pit ?
Yes, it could be managed better - shutting the steelworks before the electric furnaces are up and running is as bad as Maggie showing such disregard for pit villages - but the broad principle of moving towards circular rather than linear means of production is sound.

Really because it looks to me that we have a country getting progressively poorer with failing services & a population increasing, that’s promising to build millions of additional houses which will come with millions of additional cars further straining limited services.
If that’s not a downward spiral I don’t know what is.

 

[delilah]

Rome fiddles whilst China burns springs to mind though

Leaving the environmental stuff out of it, it still makes social and economic sense to move to a circular economy.

 

[BrianV]

Leaving the environmental stuff out of it, it still makes social and economic sense to move to a circular economy.

Circular or spiral?

 

[Burrell Road Loco]

Plenty to be proud of.
There's far more jobs in renewables and the other three r's - reduce, reuse, recycle - than in digging stuff out the ground and burning/smelting it.
Damned sight better for human health too; anyone on here volunteering to go back to chucking fusty hay about all day ? Yet you want to send folks back down the pit ?
Yes, it could be managed better - shutting the steelworks before the electric furnaces are up and running is as bad as Maggie showing such disregard for pit villages - but the broad principle of moving towards circular rather than linear means of production is sound.

So as long as someone else does the real work, out of sight, we are the good righteous people kidding ourselves that we are ‘saving the planet’?
I’m not sure if your statement is snobbery, ignorant or just bloody stupid, or maybe I’ve missed the ironic sarcasism?

 

[Bald Rick]

Leaving the environmental stuff out of it, it still makes social and economic sense to move to a circular economy.

Sainted Isle has one of the best records for domestic recycling.
What they do with it, I have no idea

 

[glasshouse]

Plenty to be proud of.
There's far more jobs in renewables and the other three r's - reduce, reuse, recycle - than in digging stuff out the ground and burning/smelting it.
Damned sight better for human health too; anyone on here volunteering to go back to chucking fusty hay about all day ? Yet you want to send folks back down the pit ?
Yes, it could be managed better - shutting the steelworks before the electric furnaces are up and running is as bad as Maggie showing such disregard for pit villages - but the broad principle of moving towards circular rather than linear means of production is sound.

We will be back to foosty hay soon when they ban silage wrap
Open cast coal is not-in short supply

 

[Burrell Road Loco]

My opinion, not at all, in fact we should be quite sad and angry, another massive blow to industry? Oh the middle class luvies those who seem to all work for the govt, rub and congratilate each other, as whats left of large scale industry is left to die, on the very naive vison of the green revolution, while we import more? What a country?

It’s criminal that our ‘leaders’ have taken this country to this point.
I never thought that this country could sink to such a low.

 

[delilah]

So as long as someone else does the real work, out of sight, we are the good righteous people kidding ourselves that we are ‘saving the planet’?
I’m not sure if your statement is snobbery, ignorant or just bloody stupid, or maybe I’ve missed the ironic sarcasism?

I spend decades up to my elbows in other people's crap - to create wealth, and jobs, and yes environmental benefit - so you can shove the 'someone else doing the work' guff where the sun don't shine .

 

[texelburger]

Really because it looks to me that we have a country getting progressively poorer with failing services & a population increasing, that’s promising to build millions of additional houses which will come with millions of additional cars further straining limited services.
If that’s not a downward spiral I don’t know what is.

Don't worry they will manipulate the figures to say we are net zero !

 

[DaveGrohl]

Sainted Isle has one of the best records for domestic recycling.
What they do with it, I have no idea

That is the entire basis of Net Zero thinking. As I’m quite sure you know.
What a time to be alive, as a very clever chap once said

 

[Vader]

Plenty to be proud of.
There's far more jobs in renewables and the other three r's - reduce, reuse, recycle - than in digging stuff out the ground and burning/smelting it.
Damned sight better for human health too; anyone on here volunteering to go back to chucking fusty hay about all day ? Yet you want to send folks back down the pit ?
Yes, it could be managed better - shutting the steelworks before the electric furnaces are up and running is as bad as Maggie showing such disregard for pit villages - but the broad principle of moving towards circular rather than linear means of production is sound.

If we were making the renewables ourselves then maybe, but we not.
But China is burning coal like crazy to make them for us

 

[BrianV]

It’s criminal that our ‘leaders’ have taken this country to this point.
I never thought that this country could sink to such a low.

Interested to know which parts of this country is doing well, farming in decline, car makers in decline, steel, coal & so many others the same.
Achieving net Zero pays no bills & will simply be smoke & mirrors by a country buying everything rather than producing it & going broke doing it.

 

[glasshouse]

It’s criminal that our ‘leaders’ have taken this country to this point.
I never thought that this country could sink to such a low.

Blame the public schoolboys who got vat free schooling
Blair, cameron, johnston, sunsak now starmer
Rot set in in 1997 with Blair

 

[bluebell]

Its a academic idea the net zero, green revolution, problem is the other half either dont care are not interested, ? If only everyone in the world did the same? Yer right? Whats even more disgraceful? As we distroy all our industries, that includes agriculture and horticulture, we then import same from where ever? Produced, sprayed, made by under what condtions etc, but hey hoy do we care?

 

[bluebell]

BrianV the only major growth i see in this country in recent years, is, are either working for the govt/council. either directly or getting big fat contracts, from govt, ie house, feed, legal aid the migrants paid for by us lot, and the growth of "consultants" the new breed of parasite?

 

[Bongodog]

Plenty to be proud of.
There's far more jobs in renewables and the other three r's - reduce, reuse, recycle - than in digging stuff out the ground and burning/smelting it.
Damned sight better for human health too; anyone on here volunteering to go back to chucking fusty hay about all day ? Yet you want to send folks back down the pit ?
Yes, it could be managed better - shutting the steelworks before the electric furnaces are up and running is as bad as Maggie showing such disregard for pit villages - but the broad principle of moving towards circular rather than linear means of production is sousound

Electric furnaces only melt scrap, they cannot process iron ore, we are sacrificing a process essential to our nation to appease greenwashers