Codd

[1982]

Whats best treatment for codd in lambs?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

A hole in the head

 

[glensman]

Whats best treatment for codd in lambs?

Betamox works well for codd.

 

[Al R]

Betamox LA or Alamycin LA, if you have a few lambs treat half with half and half with the other and see which works best, I found betamox worked better but didn’t always cure it and alamycin finished it off.
Footbathing often, 4 days footbathing then leave 2 days and repeat this for 3-4 weeks until it’s gone completely. Be careful what follows the lambs as ewes will catch it quick if grazing the same fields after. Crippling to see how quick it hits but it went as quick as it came with us.

 

[1982]

Betamox LA or Alamycin LA, if you have a few lambs treat half with half and half with the other and see which works best, I found betamox worked better but didn’t always cure it and alamycin finished it off.
Footbathing often, 4 days footbathing then leave 2 days and repeat this for 3-4 weeks until it’s gone completely. Be careful what follows the lambs as ewes will catch it quick if grazing the same fields after. Crippling to see how quick it hits but it went as quick as it came with us.

Is it a matter of treating them other day with betamox until they are better or will 1 jab do the trick?will formalin have any effect?thanks

 

[Al R]

Formalin is what I used, nasty but it works, and works well. Double the concentration for it (I think the cab says this to)
Betamox LA once should sort them, if they arnt improving between that and formalin after a week try alamycin LA. Mark accordingly which animal has been treated with which, I found neither worked 100% but formalin sorted it and stopped it spreading.

You can use Draxxin to I think but it’s horrendously expensive? When I asked on here when I had it a few people said Draxxin and others said something else to..

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Alamycin LA every other day for at least 3 treatments is Joe Angel's (the vet who did lots of trials on it) recommendation.

Betamox LA also works but likely will also need multiple jabs.
The issue is the bug's persistence and so the need to maintain treatment for longer.
Zactran or Draxxin also work, potentially with 1 jab, as they are more persistent ABs, though are more expensive.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Terramycin spray the affected area too, or footbath. The latter can help prevent spread

 

[Grassman]

I had a bad outbreak a few years ago. Just couldn't clear it.
Since then it has gone completely.
So here roughly is how we cleared it.
Mark up every sheep that limps and isolate from the flock.
Football daily and pull out anything limping afterwards.
All those affected alemycim la and terramycim spray.
Keep treating till clear.
If they don't clear up quickly then cull. Any who had it and get it again cull.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Cull cull cull

 

[devonbrion1998]

Throw everything at it, still takes months to get them clear,dreadfull thing had it once never again will we buy other folks sh*t in.

 

[shearerlad]

Licospectin/tylan foot bath

 

[muleman]

I had a bad outbreak a few years ago. Just couldn't clear it.
Since then it has gone completely.
So here roughly is how we cleared it.
Mark up every sheep that limps and isolate from the flock.
Football daily and pull out anything limping afterwards.
All those affected alemycim la and terramycim spray.
Keep treating till clear.
If they don't clear up quickly then cull. Any who had it and get it again cull.

Football daily then pull out anything limping afterwards.....we had a local tournament that always ended up like that!

 

[aled1590]

Alamycin LA every other day for at least 3 treatments is Joe Angel's (the vet who did lots of trials on it) recommendation.

Betamox LA also works but likely will also need multiple jabs.
The issue is the bug's persistence and so the need to maintain treatment for longer.
Zactran or Draxxin also work, potentially with 1 jab, as they are more persistent ABs, though are more expensive.

You sure you haven’t mixed up what joe angel said with Betamox? I’ve had few chats with Joe about lameness and my Mrs is a vet working same practice as him-also very passionate about foot health. and never have they advised using alamycin-unless for scald/foot rot. I had an awful outbreak of codd last summer in lambs, around 200. So separated them from healthy ones. Stood the healthy ones in zinc sulphate to kill any of the bacteria. Then with the lame ones injected with Betamox day 1 and day 3/4 (can’t remember) yes very time consuming and bought Betamox by the bulk but after few weeks we were down to a handfull. Thinks the trick is attention to detail and definitely separate the lame ones out of the group

 

[TristanP]

Have had an outbreak here after buying in in lamb ewes in the spring. Arrived too close to lambing and weren't quarantined long enough. Footbathed off the trailer and then again back out the yard after only a week quarantine before joining others in the field. Caused all sorts of problems/expense and certainly isn't a mistake I'd want to make again. Frustrating too as hadn't seen footrot for a number of years after working hard to cull, and the ewes came from a multiplier flock linked with well known breeders.

Here's what the vet sent me in terms of treatment:

Footbath all ewes whenever they are gathered. Gather only on a dry day.
Please consider weaning early and separating off lame ewes into the “crock flock”. The healthy ewes should be footbathed and moved to a field that has been sheep free for at least 14 days.
Treat the lame ewes aggressively with Zactran. Any ewes which make a good recovery can then be footbathed and quarantined in a third field. Only after a couple of months may they join the rest of the flock.
Vaccinate the lame group with Footvax twice 6 weeks part.
Vaccinate the remainder of flock once and give all ewes boosters at scanning. Once lameness is under control, vaccinations should be given annually before the period of anticipated highest risk.
Cull any sheep with horrible misshapen feet as these are most likely to remain carriers.

I didn't find much response to Alamycin or Betamox. Zactran does work well, but is also around £1.50/ml...

 

[Poorbuthappy]

You sure you haven’t mixed up what joe angel said with Betamox? I’ve had few chats with Joe about lameness and my Mrs is a vet working same practice as him-also very passionate about foot health. and never have they advised using alamycin-unless for scald/foot rot. I had an awful outbreak of codd last summer in lambs, around 200. So separated them from healthy ones. Stood the healthy ones in zinc sulphate to kill any of the bacteria. Then with the lame ones injected with Betamox day 1 and day 3/4 (can’t remember) yes very time consuming and bought Betamox by the bulk but after few weeks we were down to a handfull. Thinks the trick is attention to detail and definitely separate the lame ones out of the group

No, when he came down to speak at an event organised by our vets he definitely said alamycin is effective if used persistently enough. I was surprised and queried him at the time. We worked with him when he was doing the original trial with mycotil.
He was suggesting it to keep the resistance pressure off of the dearer drugs such as mycotil, zactran, etc.

 

[Spartacus]

Draxin is a lot more expensive than betamox but they only need a ml of it (on 60kg swales) and it hits it harder so long term it might end up cheaper.

 

[Northern territory]

Tried it all last summer, only thing that worked was Zactran, draxxin will do same job. Vet told us Betamox will have some effect Alamycin a waste of time in my opinion and footbathing same. The most awful thing I have had in our flock. Also cull hard

 

[TristanP]

Did anyone here use Footvax as part of the treatment/preventive for the remainder of the flock as our vet suggests?

Or just separate, treat, cull if repeatedly affected.

 

[Northern territory]

We went to local vet talk and I asked the footvax guy whom wouldn’t claim any effect on CODD prevention.