Coffey gone!

Tubbylew

Member
Location
Herefordshire
I’m afraid, if you have a Tory mp in a safe seat, then he isn’t there because he is interested in the constituency.

the best thing Ludlow ever did was vote a liberal MP in after Tory head office wanted to put a London based advisor into what they thought was one of the countries safest seats.

the constituency voted to reject him for a local councillor, who despite being useless ensured that we didn’t get someone like Liz truss.
At the next election the candidate was local (Philip Dunne) and it has been blue ever since.

If you vote for a parachuted mp then your vote is being taken for granted. I am a massive believer in constituency politics, but it only works if the constituency is important to the MP
Folk need reminding of how our system works when they're thinking of voting for the next big 'personality'.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
This might upset a few but really can we expect farming to be supported financially by government as we have seen in the past . NO the country is broke and the most important places for them to spend on is going to be health , education etc well before supporting farming i can see it coming unfortunately . They are the bigger vote winners than the agricultural community
. To some it is going to hurt but we will all need to cut our cloth accordingly to survive . The new range rover might just have to be a sh one and the skiing holiday for the barley barons might have to be put the back burner for a few years but what ever happens farmers will survive . And yes commodity prices will have to rise that's the hard bit to do we really need to be price setters not takers . The next few years is going to be tough for the hill farmers and smaller boys that can't diversify like the bigger boys and estates but im sure some will find ways . Good luck everyone

In political terms you are correct, in practical terms I fear you are wrong.
Extracting £3 billion a year from food production is going to lead to some serious consolidation and loss of critical mass. That £3 billion was an exceptionally cheap way of maintaining UK production, keeping food cheap, controlling the countryside and keeping thousands of associated businesses going.
Unless something changes quickly, things will deteriorate fast.
 

Hampton

Member
BASIS
Location
Shropshire
In political terms you are correct, in practical terms I fear you are wrong.
Extracting £3 billion a year from food production is going to lead to some serious consolidation and loss of critical mass. That £3 billion was an exceptionally cheap way of maintaining UK production, keeping food cheap, controlling the countryside and keeping thousands of associated businesses going.
Unless something changes quickly, things will deteriorate fast.
In terms of the farming vote, in terms of the country we are irrelevant.
However, in terms of key constituencies we are vital!
Boris won the last election on the back of the northern wall. He won “safe” Labour seats after the Labour Party lost the “mining” vote.
At the moment farmers vote Tory because they always have. It’s why Norfolk ended up with Leeds native Liz truss and the fens ended up with Steve Barclay.
Tory head office are taking our votes for granted.
If we want the Tory party to value our votes and our industry we have to make them!
As I said earlier, Ludlow did it, and for his faults, Philip Dunne has been a very good MP (less so in his last 5 years/retirement swansong)
Other farming constituencies need to do it too
 

mixedfmr

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
yorkshire
Probably a good idea to offer him and all his back room staff a tour, Many of them have probably nProblem thre
Problem there, remember Rishi and Kier having video and photo shoots on farm, does nt appear to have any affect on them. Kiers and Reeves planning to drop Agg prop relief and Buisness relief, must have seen some shiney stuff. We re not suposed to have the appropriate machinery for the job of feeding the nation(well 60%anyway).
 
Location
Devon
In political terms you are correct, in practical terms I fear you are wrong.
Extracting £3 billion a year from food production is going to lead to some serious consolidation and loss of critical mass. That £3 billion was an exceptionally cheap way of maintaining UK production, keeping food cheap, controlling the countryside and keeping thousands of associated businesses going.
Unless something changes quickly, things will deteriorate fast.
Yes 3 billion is nothing more than loose change to the Gov but removing it from British food production is going to cause massive damage not only to the farming industry but all rural areas!

And yes 3 billion is small fry when you think that the Gov spends 230 billion ( yes 230 billion ) a year running the shambles that is the NHS for example!
 

mixedfmr

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
yorkshire
Yes 3 billion is nothing more than loose change to the Gov but removing it from British food production is going to cause massive damage not only to the farming industry but all rural areas!

And yes 3 billion is small fry when you think that the Gov spends 230 billion ( yes 230 billion ) a year running the shambles that is the NHS for example!
We recycle that 3 Billion around the countryside prity quick it seems. But the NHS pay some of the best pensions going and have some fantastic rackets , retire at 55 and go on Bank at more pay£, less hours, Unfortunately alot £ walks out the back door!! nobody wants to know, only if you take a couple of asprin, that diffrent
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
In terms of the farming vote, in terms of the country we are irrelevant.
However, in terms of key constituencies we are vital!
Boris won the last election on the back of the northern wall. He won “safe” Labour seats after the Labour Party lost the “mining” vote.
At the moment farmers vote Tory because they always have. It’s why Norfolk ended up with Leeds native Liz truss and the fens ended up with Steve Barclay.
Tory head office are taking our votes for granted.
If we want the Tory party to value our votes and our industry we have to make them!
As I said earlier, Ludlow did it, and for his faults, Philip Dunne has been a very good MP (less so in his last 5 years/retirement swansong)
Other farming constituencies need to do it too

Not just that but kill off farmers, and you lose so many other sectors and jobs. No machinery dealers, no fert sales, less fuel used, vets, etc.

The £3bil mentioned above could knock many multiples of that off GDP.
 

Agrivator

Member
My MP, ignored my entreaties to grow some balls and vote against lockdowns during covid.

Has actually shown some interest in problems we had with school admissions, although couldn’t/didn’t actually do anything.

I have heard from local councillors that he actually listens to them and does what he can, unlike say, Lucy Frazer in the next constituency over.

Might ping him an email and see if he wants a farm tour 😂

You would be doing us a great service if you could convince him not to be too influenced by the anti-farming brigade.
 

Hampton

Member
BASIS
Location
Shropshire
I can confirm he has set foot on a farm, he has been on here but not for anything practical. He came to mrs ganders charity coffee morning.
As a constituent, the first thing you need to do is write to him (I’m happy to draft the letter on your behalf) asking him how he plans to control the spending in the future farming budget, the future farming budget is made up of the original bps money and all the Countryside stewardship money. At the moment it is being peeed up the wall by any civil servant who come up with a half baked idea of where the money should go (LIS spiralling budget being a case in point)
The future farming budget of money going back to farmers is dwindling every day and as a constituent, you can hold him accountable (something many of us can’t do)
Please do this 🙏
 

ganderman

Member
Location
South lincs
As a constituent, the first thing you need to do is write to him (I’m happy to draft the letter on your behalf) asking him how he plans to control the spending in the future farming budget, the future farming budget is made up of the original bps money and all the Countryside stewardship money. At the moment it is being peeed up the wall by any civil servant who come up with a half baked idea of where the money should go (LIS spiralling budget being a case in point)
The future farming budget of money going back to farmers is dwindling every day and as a constituent, you can hold him accountable (something many of us can’t do)
Please do this 🙏
We are just over the border line so not a constituent.
 

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