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David.

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Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
I think selling forward in May/Jun at a low point in the price cycle, on the basis that it looks an OK price, crops look full of promise, and convincing yourself "if that is my worst sale, I'll be a happy man", almost always leads to bitter tears the day you load it out in November. Exactly what happened last year.
IME.
 
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Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
I think selling forward in May/Jun at a low point in the price cycle, on the basis that it looks an OK price, crops look full of promise, and convincing yourself "if that is my worst sale, I'll be a happy man", almost always leads to bitter tears the day you load it out in November. Exactly what happened last year.
IME.
As I said to my grain merchant earlier today. Historically this time of year prices are low. I hope this year is the same.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I've just sold my 2018 harvest osr for £300 ex. Now watch the price rise...

...and sure enough...

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They did say there had been gains of about £8 this week. Sell some or not?


https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=854134&mid=7499639#M7499639

Scroll down the above thread to where GFS and EURO weather models are side by side (both 10 day - the numbers are cumulative inches of rain)

Personally i would not sell here / now.

And then i probably wouldn't sell because there will be issues with poor germination etc (which REALLY matters in corn as you well know)
Out of time to replant.
Then the USDA will run projected yield way above that growers think possible in the circumstances, and wont curb those 'trend-line' estimates much till september when they can count and measure cobs/acre
And then there will be "early freeze" scares.
Wheat has just closed in Chicago well up on the day (corn and soya less so)
Congress is suddenly talking about a $20 billion emergency farm relief scheme

I have been watching USA planting progress for the best part of 20 years, just by following AgTalk.
Many years there appear to be serious issues. Every difficult year, 100% or to a very large extent, USA farmers pull success from the jaws of defeat.
In 2013 Iowa farmers plated 70% of their corn in this exact week - that is how much planter capacity they have.
But this year is different -there is a potential disaster situation unfolding day by day.

By monday some major forecast rain will or will not have fallen on Iowa Illinois Indiana.
Monday Chicago i would expect to be interesting.


I'm going to contradict CrazyBull above - USA will plant loads of soya if they can because they can be planted later, are cheaper to grow than corn, a lot of ground destined for corn was supposed to have NH3 knifed in ages ago and that hasn't happened either. soya is a good entry for corn next year, on hope of a trade deal. But mostly because it will get too late to plant corn.
Bearish for OSR going forward??
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=854134&mid=7499639#M7499639

Scroll down the above thread to where GFS and EURO weather models are side by side (both 10 day - the numbers are cumulative inches of rain)

Personally i would not sell here / now.

And then i probably wouldn't sell because there will be issues with poor germination etc (which REALLY matters in corn as you well know)
Out of time to replant.
Then the USDA will run projected yield way above that growers think possible in the circumstances, and wont curb those 'trend-line' estimates much till september when they can count and measure cobs/acre
And then there will be "early freeze" scares.
Wheat has just closed in Chicago well up on the day (corn and soya less so)
Congress is suddenly talking about a $20 billion emergency farm relief scheme

I have been watching USA planting progress for the best part of 20 years, just by following AgTalk.
Many years there appear to be serious issues. Every difficult year, 100% or to a very large extent, USA farmers pull success from the jaws of defeat.
In 2013 Iowa farmers plated 70% of their corn in this exact week - that is how much planter capacity they have.
But this year is different -there is a potential disaster situation unfolding day by day.

By monday some major forecast rain will or will not have fallen on Iowa Illinois Indiana.
Monday Chicago i would expect to be interesting.


I'm going to contradict CrazyBull above - USA will plant loads of soya if they can because they can be planted later, are cheaper to grow than corn, a lot of ground destined for corn was supposed to have NH3 knifed in ages ago and that hasn't happened either. soya is a good entry for corn next year, on hope of a trade deal. But mostly because it will get too late to plant corn.
Bearish for OSR going forward??
Merchants seem very keen to get some bought, call me a cynic but....
 
https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=854134&mid=7499639#M7499639

Scroll down the above thread to where GFS and EURO weather models are side by side (both 10 day - the numbers are cumulative inches of rain)

Personally i would not sell here / now.

And then i probably wouldn't sell because there will be issues with poor germination etc (which REALLY matters in corn as you well know)
Out of time to replant.
Then the USDA will run projected yield way above that growers think possible in the circumstances, and wont curb those 'trend-line' estimates much till september when they can count and measure cobs/acre
And then there will be "early freeze" scares.
Wheat has just closed in Chicago well up on the day (corn and soya less so)
Congress is suddenly talking about a $20 billion emergency farm relief scheme

I have been watching USA planting progress for the best part of 20 years, just by following AgTalk.
Many years there appear to be serious issues. Every difficult year, 100% or to a very large extent, USA farmers pull success from the jaws of defeat.
In 2013 Iowa farmers plated 70% of their corn in this exact week - that is how much planter capacity they have.
But this year is different -there is a potential disaster situation unfolding day by day.

By monday some major forecast rain will or will not have fallen on Iowa Illinois Indiana.
Monday Chicago i would expect to be interesting.


I'm going to contradict CrazyBull above - USA will plant loads of soya if they can because they can be planted later, are cheaper to grow than corn, a lot of ground destined for corn was supposed to have NH3 knifed in ages ago and that hasn't happened either. soya is a good entry for corn next year, on hope of a trade deal. But mostly because it will get too late to plant corn.
Bearish for OSR going forward??
how big an effect will a delayed/no planting of corn but planting of soya instead have on world wheat prices though? Russia and ukraine are the main producers and conditions are described as favourable and very favourable out there just now, europe too
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I've sold very little. When you farm land like this, and dust was rising while ploughing in January, and there has been chuff all rain since, you do get the feeling that the potential for bad things is high.
 

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