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[Hindsight]

Two possible outcomes...Tell your rep who you trade with to call you when it gets to £196, 1, you never hear from them again! 2, it gets there... and you wait to see what happens!!

I doubt feed barley will be £10 under wheat, Currently its £40 under, we are, on paper, a net exporter of barley this year, lets wait to see what harvest brings but if we are a net exporter we will be up against the Aussies and Spain for export homes. Barley hasn't been £10 under for quite some time.

Out of interest are you a farmer or a trader? Just that if you came down here to South Lincolnshire and had a walk around a few fields of Spring Barley you might just re consider the net exporter line. I have read a few of your posts and they are always well written English and very technical. All I will say is this evening I walked several acres of Spring Barley - same had not even germinated. rest I would today take 4 tonne hectare if someone offer it. Anyway no doubt you are right and the boats will be lined up in Immingham and ex farm price sub £100 tonne. Cheers.

 

[teslacoils]

Indeed. The "bread basket" looks pretty sh!t this year. Could be importing wheat and barley. Do the maths on that. Just add anti GM maize import protesters.....

 

[Chae1]

If it keeps this dry there will be a shortage of wheat for all homes that cannot use use barley or maize

Now the fuel price has dropped so much, don't think there will be so much maize going into bio ethanol.

Which will mean more maize on market.

 

[Chae1]

Feed barley at £10 under wheat would be excellent.

Low N malting barley £20 above nov wheat futures on contracts I have. Should get 190 for loads I fixed @170. Sure there will be a few deductions though.

 

[homefarm]

We've done it before. In 2012 lots of milling wheat was imported. The docks mostly have storage and the trucks will have less domestic tonnage to move.

2012 we produced about 13 million tonnes of crap wheat, hardly fit for feed, but they learnt to use it eventually in the feed homes.
The milling wheat was imported but the flour mills are mostly located at the ports.

2020 could be the opposite, max 10 million tonnes but milling spec.
I think supplying the feed mills from the ports could be a challenge, making local barley the only option.
If they managed with 2012 wheat some good barley should be easy to add to the ration.

 

[Full of bull(s)]

I think supplying the feed mills from the ports could be a challenge, making local barley the only option.
If they managed with 2012 wheat some good barley should be easy to add to the ration.[/QUOTE]

Why? A large portion of what they use already comes from the ports, PK, soya etc. Easier logistically to supply mills using the fleet already in use to do so than suddenly need an extra 100 wagons to magically appear to fill a boat in dock when exporting. The mills won’t be using anymore just because it’s imported

 

[yellow belly]

I think supplying the feed mills from the ports could be a challenge, making local barley the only option.
If they managed with 2012 wheat some good barley should be easy to add to the ration.

Why? A large portion of what they use already comes from the ports, PK, soya etc. Easier logistically to supply mills using the fleet already in use to do so than suddenly need an extra 100 wagons to magically appear to fill a boat in dock when exporting. The mills won’t be using anymore just because it’s imported
[/QUOTE]

not all ports can get 60000 tonne ships unloaded

feed barley may be in surplas at £40 a tonne under
but malting barley may be in short supply as drouted barley produces 2.2% n at under 4 tonnes per ha
and at much higher prices if the pubs get opened up and we can still export malt

 

[Full of bull(s)]

Why? A large portion of what they use already comes from the ports, PK, soya etc. Easier logistically to supply mills using the fleet already in use to do so than suddenly need an extra 100 wagons to magically appear to fill a boat in dock when exporting. The mills won’t be using anymore just because it’s imported

not all ports can get 60000 tonne ships unloaded

feed barley may be in surplas at £40 a tonne under
but malting barley may be in short supply as drouted barley produces 2.2% n at under 4 tonnes per ha
and at much higher prices if the pubs get opened up and we can still export malt[/QUOTE]

I don’t think feed barley will be in huge surplus looking at all spring crops but maize carrying boats land at Liverpool and Teesport, either side of the North now anyway. That’s assuming the predicted huge crops of maize materialise, they’ve only just planted it. Here the trade thought spring crops were going to be barn busting in Feb when drilling began, I don’t think they are quite so sure now. One thing I’ve learnt, tops and bottoms are for fools

 

[Wiltshire Bob]

Out of interest are you a farmer or a trader? Just that if you came down here to South Lincolnshire and had a walk around a few fields of Spring Barley you might just re consider the net exporter line. I have read a few of your posts and they are always well written English and very technical. All I will say is this evening I walked several acres of Spring Barley - same had not even germinated. rest I would today take 4 tonne hectare if someone offer it. Anyway no doubt you are right and the boats will be lined up in Immingham and ex farm price sub £100 tonne. Cheers.

Hello

I wasn't saying I'm right, all I was saying is that on paper we are a net exporter, figures are what the market trades on, eventually though reality takes over. It is far different as you have said, I know spring barley is struggling I just look out the window to see that, in fact all crops are struggling at the moment and we could all do with a good drink. I hope your barley recovers and we get rain in due course.

 

[teslacoils]

We're not going to be a next exporter this next year by any figures other than the most wild optimist.

 

[JCfarmer]

Hello

I wasn't saying I'm right, all I was saying is that on paper we are a net exporter, figures are what the market trades on, eventually though reality takes over. It is far different as you have said, I know spring barley is struggling I just look out the window to see that, in fact all crops are struggling at the moment and we could all do with a good drink. I hope your barley recovers and we get rain in due course.

I could do with a good drink down my local watering hole! Not the same drinking at home, never been a home drinker.
Crops desparately need a drink round here, mainly 2nd wheats on light land suffering the most.
1st wheat, most spring barley and especially spring beans holding on at the moment.

 

[Chae1]

Good gains again today. Dry weather in Brazil meaning forecast corn yields being reduced.

 

[DrWazzock]

If I was a big user of wheat or barley, I’d be quietly filling my stores now, either physically or on paper. Judging by the constant stream of grain lorries passing here, that is what is happening.
£200 by end of year.

 

[thorpe]

somewhere in the world always has a poor harvest. what if all the world has one?

 

[Jerry]

Is the Gleadell app broken?

Can’t get it to update prices.......

 

[Jerry]

somewhere in the world always has a poor harvest. what if all the world has one?

£400 per ton wheat.......

I kind of wish for that but also wound dread it!!

 

[Chae1]

Is the Gleadell app broken?

Can’t get it to update prices.......

They've been bought over by someone else. No website now. I used use it for fert spreader settings.

Use adhb now. https://ahdb.org.uk/cereals-oilseeds-markets

 

[Jerry]

They've been bought over by someone else. No website now. I used use it for fert spreader settings.

Use adhb now. https://ahdb.org.uk/cereals-oilseeds-markets

when was that?

Recently?

was working last week.

 

[Chae1]

when was that?

Recently?

was working last week.

I tried months ago and couldn't get on. I could easily have made a mistake though.

 

[teslacoils]

If I was a big user of wheat or barley, I’d be quietly filling my stores now, either physically or on paper. Judging by the constant stream of grain lorries passing here, that is what is happening.
£200 by end of year.

Stores are filling with wheat that mills aren't using - fish and chip batter mixes etc.