Combine Crop Divider for OSR

[DrWazzock]

Is there one that would cope with OSR for example without having to resort to a side knife?

 

[DrWazzock]

Hit the wrong button. Title should say OSR.

 

[Shutesy]

Hit the wrong button. Title should say OSR.

 

[Lincs Lass]

Surely a side knife makes a cleaner job than pushing crop diverders through and shattering all the pods

 

[KB6930]

Side knife is definitely best option it gets well tangled together that stuff

 

[Timbo]

How does a side knife work in beans? Or is it best to have a vertical pole type arrangement ?

 

[KB6930]

How does a side knife work in beans? Or is it best to have a vertical pole type arrangement ?

We've never had the side knife on for beans and never even been close to needing it but I do know people who do use it

 

[DrWazzock]

How does a side knife work in beans? Or is it best to have a vertical pole type arrangement ?

If all else fails we generally fit a pole running up at 45 degrees (high end at front) so that rubbish and such like is tramped down and slides under it and under the edge of the bed rather than trying to lift the rubbish and gather it in only for it hang on. I always fit such a pole in the LHS for first run round the field then after that the standard "lift it and fold it in" type.

 

[DrWazzock]

The trouble with side knife in rape is you see a lot of laterals fall to the ground but maybe that's the best that can be done. Just exploring the topic and seeing if anybody has a better solution. We have uses poles before that push the rape down and under. Only problem is you have to work back and forth and go low enough to pick up what was pushed under bed edge in previous pass. I don't reckon you lose any more than with a side knife though, and it's much cheaper and simpler.

 

[KB6930]

I'd think you'll knock more out with the knife you only lose what it cuts through if you start shoving it down under you'll be moving alot more crop out the way

 

[Timbo]

Tried various permutations of pole usually with copious gaffer tape around most of the header end but beans will still bunch n drag rather than side under.

 

[Lincs Lass]

One problem I can see with dividers, not just the shatter problem but the stuff going sideways can fall back against the reel and tafle round the end of it, especially If the reel has an hydraulic drive on both ends, at least with a knife it's a clean cut and the small % of dropped seeds is minut in comparison to what falls before its on the bed

 

[robbie]

Last year was our first year cutting rape. We have a john deere 818 headed. We didn't want to go to the expense of a side knife so I got a long side divider of a class matador which is over 6 feet long. There's a hole already just behind the point on the existing jd divider which it fitted into and I then attached the class adjuster to the side of the header to allow lateral and vertical adjustment.

It worked really well and gently parted the crop with minimal losses. Because of the length the crop was kept well away from the reel and any crop that fell back was already past the back edge of the header.

Our rape was quite badly lodged and it never dragged up on the divider once.

 

[An Gof]

Last year was our first year cutting rape. We have a john deere 818 headed. We didn't want to go to the expense of a side knife so I got a long side divider of a class matador which is over 6 feet long. There's a hole already just behind the point on the existing jd divider which it fitted into and I then attached the class adjuster to the side of the header to allow lateral and vertical adjustment.

It worked really well and gently parted the crop with minimal losses. Because of the length the crop was kept well away from the reel and any crop that fell back was already past the back edge of the header.

Our rape was quite badly lodged and it never dragged up on the divider once.

That’s basically the same method that my combine contractor uses. Seems to work ok.

 

[lostdog]

How does a side knife work in beans? Or is it best to have a vertical pole type arrangement ?

I routinely use a side knife in beans. Unless they're short and upright I find they will bunch on the end when using standard divider. Takes 5 minutes to put the side knife on and then no more worries.

On our old tf42 I did use a scaffold tube bent at 45 on the end of the divider for beans or laid crops. It would push the crop down and under. That worked well.

I would not want to cut OSR without one .

 

[DrWazzock]

We have got away with a pole before but it wasnt pretty. Might be last year we grow rape so maybe not worth the expensive of sideknife.
I must resist the temptation to spend on solutions before harvest.

 

[Zippy768]

I've used the side knife in badly lodged/lodging winter barley. Worked better than any of the dividers we had or even the one I hastily made one morning

 

[yellow belly]

when we had a tx34 used the long divider we had with the 1545 on spring rape
worked quite well

the only problem is if you stop and back up it can hook up round the back of the divider

it works best with naturally died crop rather than sprayed off

if you spray off putting divider down the wheeling is an option for some runs

 

[Wilberforce]

Try knocking up a taller one of these. We made this for the Oats, works a treat!

 

[Brisel]

I don't see how moving ripe osr doesn't lose more seed yield than a side knife unless you've got pods tougher than old leather boots. Any disturbance shatters the pods - better just to buy a side knife if you've got more than a couple of days combining in osr IMO.