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[Skintagain]

I’m not sure if it’s economical to finish ewes on anything but grass or something else cheap
The conversion with ewes is surprisingly bad which makes expensive cake or blend a no go unless it’s just for the last bit and the main of the condition has been put on with something else
To fatten anything you need starch energy and protein probably in that order
You should have an energy level on that analysis

Only real bad white faced ewes are worth feeding I have found. Maybe eat £30-40 in corn but can lift from a £20 model to over £100. A swale etc isn’t worth it imo

 

[livestock 1]

Only real bad white faced ewes are worth feeding I have found. Maybe eat £30-40 in corn but can lift from a £20 model to over £100. A swale etc isn’t worth it imo

I think so too. Also the value of the lean ones at times reflect someone with somewhere to feed them on cheap. Which means someone else can feed them more efficiently than using cake

 

[Skintagain]

I think so too. Also the value of the lean ones at times reflect someone with somewhere to feed them on cheap. Which means someone else can feed them more efficiently than using cake

They can but some need the cake to turn them into anything. Works for me

 

[Bigsingle]

I had some rubbish wee lmbs years ago and feed them harbro lmb pellets and they done brilliant on it.

 

[Jockers84]

I had some rubbish wee lmbs years ago and feed them harbro lmb pellets and they done brilliant on it.

I think I’ll probably be switching back to Harbro for the next batch are ready for finishing.

 

[drk]

Duffield prime intensive lamb finisher 15.5 protein £322 on 6 ton bulk

 

[Bigsingle]

5 ton Davidsons ewelac18 soya, 339.

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

For the last few years I’ve fed I’ansons universal pellets to cattle and lambs rather than a special cattle nut or lamb pellet and they’ve done just as well as before. They are 16% protein, 4.0% oils and fats. Looking at ewe nuts they are 18% protein and 4.25% oils and fats.

The main ingredients in the Universal are Barley, wheatfeed, rapemeal extract, soya hulls, palm kernel expeller, molasses, field beans

The ewe cake has Wheat instead of barley , dark distillers grains and some hi-pro soya, the rest is much the same. The protein source is obviously superior but for reasonably fit ewes, that have been bolussed and will have lifeline buckets as well, is it worth paying nearly £100 per ton more for ewe nuts.
The big difference is because this year I have no where to put bulk ewe nuts so they would come in bags. I could feed more of the universal and still be better off

 

[livestock 1]

For the last few years I’ve fed I’ansons universal pellets to cattle and lambs rather than a special cattle nut or lamb pellet and they’ve done just as well as before. They are 16% protein, 4.0% oils and fats. Looking at ewe nuts they are 18% protein and 4.25% oils and fats.

The main ingredients in the Universal are Barley, wheatfeed, rapemeal extract, soya hulls, palm kernel expeller, molasses, field beans

The ewe cake has Wheat instead of barley , dark distillers grains and some hi-pro soya, the rest is much the same. The protein source is obviously superior but for reasonably fit ewes, that have been bolussed and will have lifeline buckets as well, is it worth paying nearly £100 per ton more for ewe nuts.
The big difference is because this year I have no where to put bulk ewe nuts so they would come in bags. I could feed more of the universal and still be better off

I’ve used both are the nuts matrix nuts?
In all honesty the ewes will do better on the rolls (or ours have) you might get away with it if the ewes are fit but then the question is what’s actually better value?

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

I’ve used both are the nuts matrix nuts?
In all honesty the ewes will do better on the rolls (or ours have) you might get away with it if the ewes are fit but then the question is what’s actually better value?

They're premium ewe nuts 18.
I think I already know you're right, it's just going to be a faff

 

[livestock 1]

They're premium ewe nuts 18.
I think I already know you're right, it's just going to be a faff

Universal pellets? Matrix nuts?

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

Universal pellets? Matrix nuts?

I should have typed Universal nuts not pellets, that’s what they’re called on the ticket. That is fed to cattle and fattening lambs, it’s £304 blown in and they do well on it, for well framed hoggs that just need finish I sometimes get two parts nuts and 1 part micronised barley. If I get the premium ewe 18 I’ll get cobs .I’m just going off last years tickets for ewe feed. Are the matrix nuts their specific lamb fattening nut?

 

[livestock 1]

I should have typed Universal nuts not pellets, that’s what they’re called on the ticket. That is fed to cattle and fattening lambs, it’s £304 blown in and they do well on it, for well framed hoggs that just need finish I sometimes get two parts nuts and 1 part micronised barley. If I get the premium ewe 18 I’ll get cobs .I’m just going off last years tickets for ewe feed. Are the matrix nuts their specific lamb fattening nut?

I think the Matrix nuts will be the same or similar the universal nuts you are using. Basically a 16% nut general purpose good for cattle and sheep. We have used a lot of that in the past same as you we put some of their cooked barley in amongst it to liven it up a bit for fattening hoggs.
We did give some to ewes thinking the same as you it would be the same or do the same job, it isn’t. The ewes seemed to only shift when they got onto the rolls. I’m not telling you your job or anything but would recommend the rolls for the ewes for whatever reason. What price are their rolls?

 

[livestock 1]

We’ve gone onto blend for hoggs and store cattle

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

I think the Matrix nuts will be the same or similar the universal nuts you are using. Basically a 16% nut general purpose good for cattle and sheep. We have used a lot of that in the past same as you we put some of their cooked barley in amongst it to liven it up a bit for fattening hoggs.
We did give some to ewes thinking the same as you it would be the same or do the same job, it isn’t. The ewes seemed to only shift when they got onto the rolls. I’m not telling you your job or anything but would recommend the rolls for the ewes for whatever reason. What price are their rolls?

I think she said in bags they’re £402, in bulk they’re probably £50 less

 

[livestock 1]

I think she said in bags they’re £402, in bulk they’re probably £50 less

If you buy it in bulk I would definitely say the £50 more a tonne than the general purpose nuts is worth it, even if you gave them less of it in my experience

 

[Skintagain]

We’ve gone onto blend for hoggs and store cattle

How much cheaper is the blend that nuts same (ish) ticket?

 

[livestock 1]

How much cheaper is the blend that nuts same (ish) ticket?

I don’t know now, we changed more onto blend when the electricity got dear the rep said there was a load more energy cost in pelleting the stuff. It was £60 a tonne difference at one point nearer £20 now I think. At least with blend you can see a good bit of what’s in it

 

[Hill Ground]

How much cheaper is the blend that nuts same (ish) ticket?

Have to risk the troughs with ewes then!!

 

[Jonny_2]

I think she said in bags they’re £402, in bulk they’re probably £50 less

Get down the road to their neighbours, Jamesons Gold Ewe rolls in bags are £380 something delivered