Concrete Panel Silage Clamp

[Tarw Coch]

I'm considering the possibility of putting up a silage clamp with panels. How high can i make the walls with the panels sitting inside the girders? I would like to get up to about 12 foot/4 metres, would the steels be strong enough at this height?
Unfortunately i don't know anyone with a panelled clamp to go and look at so all advice would be appreciated.

 

[hairy]

why do you want the panels inside .saw a panelled pit yesterday at mains of mause blairgowrie at the beef event I would say it was 17ft looked good . but iwould like panels covering all the steel to protect from acid

 

[Tarw Coch]

why do you want the panels inside .saw a panelled pit yesterday at mains of mause blairgowrie at the beef event I would say it was 17ft looked good . but iwould like panels covering all the steel to protect from acid

Centre wall

 

[Andrew1983]

We have welded c channel back to back for extra strength when slotting panels in. Never that high though. Would the A panels work better for a centre wall? Been thinking about this myself as the wall between our pits has cracked and is past its best.

 

[Tarw Coch]

We have welded c channel back to back for extra strength when slotting panels in. Never that high though. Would the A panels work better for a centre wall? Been thinking about this myself as the wall between our pits has cracked and is past its best.

Too many joints in A panels for my liking? Any slight imperfection in the floor would leave a gap, not good for silage. I had considered it, anyone got any experience of using them on a silage pit?

 

[poorsheepfarmer]

Too many joints in A panels for my liking? Any slight imperfection in the floor would leave a gap, not good for silage. I had considered it, anyone got any experience of using them on a silage pit?

Sheet sides

 

[General-Lee]

We've just split the clamp for the 1st time.

 

[Blue.]

Like Gl above I have these
www.jpconcrete.co.uk/freestanding-concrete-wall/

No gaps,my floor must be good.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Like Gl above I have these
www.jpconcrete.co.uk/freestanding-concrete-wall/

No gaps,my floor must be good.

Interesting, I'm warming to the idea but are they ok for silage, a lot of difference to piling grain against them to pushing silage up and rolling with a 10 ton plus tractor especially when the inevitable happens and you end up above the sides. I' d be worried about them moving.

OTOH there is little work/preparation to putting them in place, I could do that myself so that's good for costs, speaking of which, has anyone got an idea of their cost?

 

[Blue.]

Interesting, I'm warming to the idea but are they ok for silage, a lot of difference to piling grain against them to pushing silage up and rolling with a 10 ton plus tractor especially when the inevitable happens and you end up above the sides. I' d be worried about them moving.

OTOH there is little work/preparation to putting them in place, I could do that myself so that's good for costs, speaking of which, has anyone got an idea of their cost?

£286 each for a 3.6m high freestanding panel they are 1.2m deep,had silage 26'+ high against mine,they do weigh 3.5t though.

 

[Tarw Coch]

£286 each for a 3.6m high freestanding panel they are 1.2m deep,had silage 26'+ high against mine,they do weigh 3.5t though.

Sounds like they're fit for purpose for what I want then, what did you shift yours with? I have a 735 manitou, right on the edge of it's capabilities.

 

[Blue.]

Sounds like they're fit for purpose for what I want then, what did you shift yours with? I have a 735 manitou, right on the edge of it's capabilities.

Jcb 535-95 lifts them fine.

 

[General-Lee]

Jcb 535-95 lifts them fine.

You wouldn't have the cut out on that? Had it a few times when computer says no would be handy to have pallet tine holes at the bottom but guess would nobble integrity.

 

[Tarw Coch]

You wouldn't have the cut out on that? Had it a few times when computer says no would be handy to have pallet tine holes at the bottom but guess would nobble integrity.

535-95 presumably 3.5 ton to 9.5 m

As for cut outs, had my manitou second hand on a 60 plate never had a problem with lift but haven't tried anything near as heavy as this, I hear newer machines are blighted by safety gizmos, don't know if mine has them or not though. Wouldn't want to find out it wasn't up to the job when a loaded wagon is sitting in the yard

 

[Blue.]

535-95 presumably 3.5 ton to 9.5 m

As for cut outs, had my manitou second hand on a 60 plate never had a problem with lift but haven't tried anything near as heavy as this, I hear newer machines are blighted by safety gizmos, don't know if mine has them or not though. Wouldn't want to find out it wasn't up to the job when a loaded wagon is sitting in the yard

When unloading they come on their side so you lift them with screw in sort of wire rope,I'm sure a 3.5t machine will lift them fine as the weight is far back under the headstock.


Just had a look on my quote and they are 3270kg not 3500kg as I posted

 

[Tarw Coch]

When unloading they come on their side so you lift them with screw in sort of wire rope,I'm sure a 3.5t machine will lift them fine as the weight is far back under the headstock.


Just had a look on my quote and they are 3270kg not 3500kg as I posted

Ok thanks
Looking again at their website they mention that they can be fastened together with a bar and/or bolted down, have you done this or will they hold without?

 

[Blue.]

Ok thanks
Looking again at their website they mention that they can be fastened together with a bar and/or bolted down, have you done this or will they hold without?

I've never bolted them down and they only moved when I went to scoop up some wheat tipped against them

I have some freestanding A panels and we've had silage double their height against them.

One of the main reasons I bought freestanding was the fact I was a tenant and I thought I'd be able to sell them again,also I can alter clamp width to suit crop size or amount cut.

 

[General-Lee]

535-95 presumably 3.5 ton to 9.5 m

As for cut outs, had my manitou second hand on a 60 plate never had a problem with lift but haven't tried anything near as heavy as this, I hear newer machines are blighted by safety gizmos, don't know if mine has them or not though. Wouldn't want to find out it wasn't up to the job when a loaded wagon is sitting in the yard

As you eulb said come on their side which is fine to unload but moving and putting in place can trigger it especially as ours were stored off concrete bit of a fine line between keeping clear of front tyres. As everyone knows pretty crap design when all you want/safest thing to do is lower them but can't, this is on a 536-60.

 

[Unbrako precast]

203x203x60kgm universal column is fine for up to 4m , it is also not a bad fit for a 150mm panel . Galvanising and bitumen paint hold of corrosion to a degree , it is the bottoms that are worse affected , side sheeting and turning the concrete up near the posts will protect them further still.

 

[milkloss]

£286 each for a 3.6m high freestanding panel they are 1.2m deep,had silage 26'+ high against mine,they do weigh 3.5t though.

Loaded on one side only? Would be great to see some pics if you have the time.