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You evidently have no idea what covid is doing to people in the third world being dead is often preferable to abject poverty. Kenya 2400 deaths from Covid over the last year 35000+ from diahorrea. Hundreds of thousands have lost their jobs as the Kenyan Government tries to match the response of the west there’s no furlough here just lots of hungry poor people with little if any chance to get out of poverty. The cartoon was very apt and true Covid is a disease of rich nations .If you are poor, you have a chance to get out of poverty. If you are dead, you have no chance of being alive
Were welfare conditions better under British rule than under their own regime? The diahorrea presumably is largely down to poor water quality. My guess is that colonial interests kept the working population relatively healthy for their own benefit at least so what has happened since? 58 years have elapsed, large amounts of aid have been lavished and the country is still suffering from lack of basic hygiene. Are you living in Utopia?You evidently have no idea what covid is doing to people in the third world being dead is often preferable to abject poverty. Kenya 2400 deaths from Covid over the last year 35000+ from diahorrea. Hundreds of thousands have lost their jobs as the Kenyan Government tries to match the response of the west there’s no furlough here just lots of hungry poor people with little if any chance to get out of poverty. The cartoon was very apt and true.
58 years of independence hasn’t benefitted anyone here much apart from those in power and their cronies. If you have money it’s a nice place to be if you don’t it’s not but generally people don’t know much difference as they’ve never had much but as the economy contracts they have even less. Contraction of the economy is caused here not by Covid deaths but by lack of tourism and reduced demand for agricultural exports. As for living in Utopia generally i am the sun shines everyday, i have money and i live on a farm surrounded by amazing wildlife unfortunately lots of people here aren’t so lucky.Were welfare conditions better under British rule than under their own regime? The diahorrea presumably is largely down to poor water quality. My guess is that colonial interests kept the working population relatively healthy for their own benefit at least so what has happened since? 58 years have elapsed, large amounts of aid have been lavished and the country is still suffering from lack of basic hygiene. Are you living in Utopia?
Critics of Britannia and the empire generally fail to accept that when the Brts left life generally went downhill. The possible counter argument is that the original inhabitants would be better off if they had never have been “invaded” in the first place but that theory is difficult to prove or disprove. You and your wife should be well placed to make judgements due to the fact that you are both colonisers and in your wife’s case from a colonised country by the British. Please comment.58 years of independence hasn’t benefitted anyone here much apart from those in power and their cronies. If you have money it’s a nice place to be if you don’t it’s not but generally people don’t know much difference as they’ve never had much but as the economy contracts they have even less. Contraction of the economy is caused here not by Covid deaths but by lack of tourism and reduced demand for agricultural exports. As for living in Utopia generally i am the sun shines everyday, i have money and i live on a farm surrounded by amazing wildlife unfortunately lots of people here aren’t so lucky.
I am very proud to be English and have no problem saying things were better under the Empire but it's a bit like having kids they have to leave home sometimes. As for my wife her family left India in 1896 for a better life and things haven't turned out too bad for them. However one side of her family came from Goa which was colonised up to 1960 by the Portuguese. To wind her up our kids tell her she is Portuguese as many Goans believe they are rather than Indians.Critics of Britannia and the empire generally fail to accept that when the Brts left life generally went downhill. The possible counter argument is that the original inhabitants would be better off if they had never have been “invaded” in the first place but that theory is difficult to prove or disprove. You and your wife should be well placed to make judgements due to the fact that you are both colonisers and in your wife’s case from a colonised country by the British. Please comment.
Oh dear. I am sorry to stir up family differences but your experiences and opinions are far more valuable than those who like tho fire bullets at British colonial past without the faintest idea what they are talking about. Some of these critics are enjoying the benefits of British colonialism and I have known people who have been brought up in South Africa under both Dutch and British colonial powers and the general consensus is that the Brits were generally good colonisers. Sure there were injustices but that is an unavoidable feature of human nature.I am very proud to be English and have no problem saying things were better under the Empire but it's a bit like having kids they have to leave home sometimes. As for my wife her family left India in 1896 for a better life and things haven't turned out too bad for them. However one side of her family came from Goa which was colonised up to 1960 by the Portuguese. To wind her up our kids tell her she is Portuguese as many Goans believe they are rather than Indians.
Your assuming that civilization and health care for all is a guaranteed thing. It’s not.If you are poor, you have a chance to get out of poverty. If you are dead, you have no chance of being alive
Not a problem I am pleased that I haven't spent all my life down the fen and as such have a good take on life and society ( or at least I think I do)Oh dear. I am sorry to stir up family differences but your experiences and opinions are far more valuable than those who like tho fire bullets at British colonial past without the faintest idea what they are talking about. Some of these critics are enjoying the benefits of British colonialism and I have known people who have been brought up in South Africa under both Dutch and British colonial powers and the general consensus is that the Brits were generally good colonisers. Sure there were injustices but that is an unavoidable feature of human nature.
You evidently have no idea what covid is doing to people in the third world being dead is often preferable to abject poverty. Kenya 2400 deaths from Covid over the last year 35000+ from diahorrea. Hundreds of thousands have lost their jobs as the Kenyan Government tries to match the response of the west there’s no furlough here just lots of hungry poor people with little if any chance to get out of poverty. The cartoon was very apt and true Covid is a disease of rich nations .
A project for the Green Party and other eco warriors.If they stop having 10 kids per couple they wouldn’t have this problem
Ten kids? No mate it is not Wales. 4 or 5 is the norm here obviously the fewer the kids the less the drain on the family except who will look after the livestock or collect water or help dig the field or look after the younger kids whilst mum is working. Smaller families come when development comes it's only in the last 100 years in Europe that family sizes have declined. A reduction in poverty leads to a reduction in the need to have a large family. And generally a reduction in poverty comes with employment something that's not being helped at present due to Covid. It's not as simple as another kid or a flat screen TV? we haven't got to that level.If they stop having 10 kids per couple they wouldn’t have this problem
This is similar to the situation on the television documentary My Yorkshire Farm where I suggested that such lifestyles are not sustainable under Green Party rules, hence my earlier comment. Quite unconnected and equally off topic I would recommend an autobiography by a friend of mine called Mike Cringle, entitled Norfolk, Africa and Me,.Ten kids? No mate it is not Wales. 4 or 5 is the norm here obviously the fewer the kids the less the drain on the family except who will look after the livestock or collect water or help dig the field or look after the younger kids whilst mum is working. Smaller families come when development comes it's only in the last 100 years in Europe that family sizes have declined. A reduction in poverty leads to a reduction in the need to have a large family. And generally a reduction in poverty comes with employment something that's not being helped at present due to Covid. It's not as simple as another kid or a flat screen TV? we haven't got to that level.
The Owens are an interesting comparison. Their large family had clearly increased their overall impact on the planet but I wonder if their chosen lifestyle means its not that much more than a typical English urban couple with 2 kids.This is similar to the situation on the television documentary My Yorkshire Farm where I suggested that such lifestyles are not sustainable under Green Party rules, hence my earlier comment. Quite unconnected and equally off topic I would recommend an autobiography by a friend of mine called Mike Cringle, entitled Norfolk, Africa and Me,.
It is set in the times of the Mau Mau and he worked in Kenya as a government agricultural advisor and travelling the country in an MG sports car. A strange choice of vehicle I thought.
Whole they're young probably similar but over the kids life time it will be massively bigger.The Owens are an interesting comparison. Their large family had clearly increased their overall impact on the planet but I wonder if their chosen lifestyle means its not that much more than a typical English urban couple with 2 kids.
I reckon the point there is one Western kid will consume as much if not more than ten African kids.This is similar to the situation on the television documentary My Yorkshire Farm where I suggested that such lifestyles are not sustainable under Green Party rules, hence my earlier comment. Quite unconnected and equally off topic I would recommend an autobiography by a friend of mine called Mike Cringle, entitled Norfolk, Africa and Me,.
It is set in the times of the Mau Mau and he worked in Kenya as a government agricultural advisor and travelling the country in an MG sports car. A strange choice of vehicle I thought.
Not a problem I am pleased that I haven't spent all my life down the fen and as such have a good take on life and society ( or at least I think I do)