Countryside stewardship mirror agreement

[carpenter1]

Has any one else had an email about countryside stewardship mirror agreement?

Is there anything I need to check with it?

 

[steveR]

Has any one else had an email about countryside stewardship mirror agreement?

Is there anything I need to check with it?

Intriguing. Never heard of such a thing....

 

[carpenter1]

Intriguing. Never heard of such a thing....

I have an agreement ending this year,
There saying they could mirror the agreement for another 5 years
I had an email on Thursday, it's the first the land agent had heard of it

 

[marshbarn]

Has any one else had an email about countryside stewardship mirror agreement?

Is there anything I need to check with it?

Yes had the email , as i understand it it is to roll over your agreement that runs out december 2021

 

[spin cycle]

I have an agreement ending this year,
There saying they could mirror the agreement for another 5 years
I had an email on Thursday, it's the first the land agent had heard of it

when my last agreement was ending i was offered a years extension.....sounds like it's just offering to repeat the scheme

 

[carpenter1]

when my last agreement was ending i was offered a years extension.....sounds like it's just offering to repeat the scheme

Did yours end last year?
If so I think you can now get a 5 year agreement
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countryside-stewardship-mirror-agreements

 

[spin cycle]

Did yours end last year?
If so I think you can now get a 5 year agreement
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countryside-stewardship-mirror-agreements

mine ended feb 2020 bit i'd had enough of it......i applied for and got mixed wildlife offer.....but turned it down as circumstances changed between submission/approval....i shall re apply this year

wildlife offer options better IMO

 

[super4]

If you want some capital works doing, then your have to apply for a new scheme apparantly.

 

[Wooly]

Just remember if it is an extension to the agreement, watch out for any penalties going right back to the start !!

New agreements can only go back to their start.



I was given a 5 year extension, but the agreement that the RPA had on file was a different agreement than what Natural England had made me sign and I had been working on for 5 years. You couldn't make it up !

 

[steveR]

when my last agreement was ending i was offered a years extension.....sounds like it's just offering to repeat the scheme

That is what I was offered.

I declined as the protocol they followed was that if there was a breach, the penalty and the repayment could/would go back to the start of the Agreement, potentially 11-15 years...

I have already had a very costly experience with a less than truthful Inspector... I am out!

 

[steveR]

Just remember if it is an extension to the agreement, watch out for any penalties going right back to the start !!

New agreements can only go back to their start.



I was given a 5 year extension, but the agreement that the RPA had on file was a different agreement than what Natural England had made me sign and I had been working on for 5 years. You couldn't make it up !

Whoops... And the Inspector will not always have the original agreement to hand when he makes a visit...

 

[steveR]

mine ended feb 2020 bit i'd had enough of it......i applied for and got mixed wildlife offer.....but turned it down as circumstances changed between submission/approval....i shall re apply this year

wildlife offer options better IMO

Doing the same here if Severn Trent don't come through with an agreement...

 

[steveR]

Did yours end last year?
If so I think you can now get a 5 year agreement
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countryside-stewardship-mirror-agreements

See comments relating to Penalties etc...

 

[steveR]

I have an agreement ending this year,
There saying they could mirror the agreement for another 5 years
I had an email on Thursday, it's the first the land agent had heard of it

NE have had a lot of refusals I suspect. Better to go Mid Tier...

 

[steveR]

Just remember if it is an extension to the agreement, watch out for any penalties going right back to the start !!

New agreements can only go back to their start.



I was given a 5 year extension, but the agreement that the RPA had on file was a different agreement than what Natural England had made me sign and I had been working on for 5 years. You couldn't make it up !

So is a "mirror agreement" a new agreement for the purposes of inspection and penalties??

 

[carpenter1]

So is a "mirror agreement" a new agreement for the purposes of inspection and penalties??

I think it is

 

[steveR]

I think it is

Too many rejections on the old terms I suspect...

Do check, and let us know please.