Cover crop bean seed rate

[e3120]

Morning. Like plenty of others I suppose, I will be scattering a few beans ahead of the plough/combi when drilling wheat, after both cereals and grass, to fulfill the aims of my multi species cover crops.

How few can I get away with? Bodied land and likely DFF in the pre-em.

 

[Case290]

40-50kg ha should give a good stand but very thin. I’d of thought

 

[Zippy768]

I'm going oats ahead of winter barley

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Multi Species, is it 4 ?

 

[e3120]

Multi Species, is it 4 ?

At least 2, from 1 or more of 4 families, for sfi23, which can be taken to harvest. Or it at least was the day I accepted the agreement and saved the prevailing rules.

 

[Billboy1]

what would be a good companion for barley ?

 

[Zippy768]

Morning. Like plenty of others I suppose, I will be scattering a few beans ahead of the plough/combi when drilling wheat, after both cereals and grass, to fulfill the aims of my multi species cover crops.

How few can I get away with? Bodied land and likely DFF in the pre-em.

Any more thoughts on this.
I can get my hands on a 250kg bag of beans, but would be a rate of 12.5kg/acre, in a field of wheat.
Otherwise it's 25kg, which is 25% of a drilling rate

 

[EJS]

Last year I put 30kg in with every 500kg seed bag wheat - worked well but thin - am going to do 50kg this year - also trying sanfoin - no idea on seed rate
Sfi 23 so only 2 seeds

 

[Zippy768]

Last year I put 30kg in with every 500kg seed bag wheat - worked well but thin - am going to do 50kg this year - also trying sanfoin - no idea on seed rate
Sfi 23 so only 2 seeds

What would that work out per acre - 7.5kg acre?

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

Any more thoughts on this.
I can get my hands on a 250kg bag of beans, but would be a rate of 12.5kg/acre, in a field of wheat.
Otherwise it's 25kg, which is 25% of a drilling rate

A bag of linseed would go a lot further.

 

[Zippy768]

A bag of linseed would go a lot further.

How would that do re. Herbicides

 

[Punch]

Would spring beans be too high a risk of frost kill before end of February?

 

[EJS]

What would that work out per acre - 7.5kg acre?

I was drilling at 220kg per ha of wheat so will be 22kg beans per ha (9kg ac) was half that this year and worked just looked bit thin - might try linseed if it will come through pre em - was told sainfoin will work

 

[farmerm]

Great how we are not many weeks from start of drilling in not many weeks and I am not the only one still scratting around as to exactly how I will be doing this.

Was thinking about 20Kg/ha beans? Some is after filthy crops of OSR that had no herbicide, some is currently AHL1 nectar pollen which I cant decide if I it should be destroyed by spray or flail...

Will then be ploughed and Lemken combi drilled. Best to broadcast the beans ahead of the plough or mix into the drill? Do they meter alright with such different seed size mixed? Tempted to experiment with a few handfuls of things but not sure what? Oats? Black Oats, small white clover, lindseed, sainfoin, even OSR? What has reasonable expectations of meeting the aims but will not cause issues later on...?

Any thoughts on what companion slugs might prefer to eat instead of wheat...?

 

[AlphaBravoPapaSux]

Span beans on at 30kg/ha in front of the drill last year. Result looked like this. Will probably up it to 40kg/ha this year

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

Span beans on at 30kg/ha in front of the drill last year. Result looked like this. Will probably up it to 40kg/ha this year

Winter or spring beans?

 

[AlphaBravoPapaSux]

Winter or spring beans?

Winter

 

[BigBarl]

Know the TGW of the beans before deciding on a rate as it can make a big difference, it’s not uncommon for beans to fluctuate 25% YOY. Personally I’d be aiming for about 5-10 plants per metre.

 

[4course]

Span beans on at 30kg/ha in front of the drill last year. Result looked like this. Will probably up it to 40kg/ha this year

what was the start date of your agreement or did you do this sowing prior to your start date so the crop /mix was established ?

 

[AlphaBravoPapaSux]

what was the start date of your agreement or did you do this sowing prior to your start date so the crop /mix was established ?

Start date is 1st March