Covid Vaccine Roll out.

[caveman]

How will they get the vaccine out to the amazone or the mountains of chile if it needs constant cold storage?

Amazon drones in the winter.
Can be kept at normal fridge temps for several days, apparently.

 

[bobk]

Amazon drones in the winter.
Can be kept at normal fridge temps for several days, apparently.

6 hours

 

[Hindsight]

Amazon drones in the winter.
Can be kept at normal fridge temps for several days, apparently.

6 hours

Normal fridge temperature maximum 5 days shelf life - according to Radio 4 report at 5pm. Thus can be managed and administered by GP practices - and in the initial rollout some larger GP practices involved. That was the report.

 

[bobk]

Normal fridge temperature maximum 5 days shelf life - according to Radio 4 report at 5pm. Thus can be managed and administered by GP practices - and in the initial rollout some larger GP practices involved. That was the report.

My post came from the distribution geezer at Biontech

 

[Oldmacdonald]

So the rapidly produced vaccine is approved as safe. Conventionally it takes around 8 years to produce such a preparation to be safe. Does this indicate that the project was started in 2012 ?........

Well yes actually.
Oxford was working on virus X for years previously.

 

[hel123]

Now we've got the vaccine, l predict 2021 will be a very bad year for flu and pneumonia deaths as it will be back with a vengeance having all but disappeared in 2020

 

[Highland Mule]

Well yes actually.
Oxford was working on virus X for years previously.

Also worth noting that a typical vaccine development of eight years will include about seven years of funding applications, waiting for administrative approvals to do things, procurement delays etc. The fast tracking of this one involved removal of a huge chunk of non-clinical activities.

 

[arcobob]

Also worth noting that a typical vaccine development of eight years will include about seven years of funding applications, waiting for administrative approvals to do things, procurement delays etc. The fast tracking of this one involved removal of a huge chunk of non-clinical activities.

The sort of thing the Chinese don`t have to endure. When they decide to do something it appears that the government throws money at it, dishes out the orders and nobody is allowed to question or get in the way. It seems to get things done but then they don`t have nimbies.

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

Now we've got the vaccine, l predict 2021 will be a very bad year for flu and pneumonia deaths as it will be back with a vengeance having all but disappeared in 2020

Depends if people continue improved hand hygiene and keeping their distance from those not in their immediate household. However you may well be right as there will be another cohort of old people for next winter ready to die of something.

 

[Highland Mule]

The sort of thing the Chinese don`t have to endure. When they decide to do something it appears that the government throws money at it, dishes out the orders and nobody is allowed to question or get in the way. It seems to get things done but then they don`t have nimbies.

It's often said that the perfect government is a benevolent dictator. I'm not sure I agree entirely, but the idea does have merits - provided they're geuinely benevolent.

 

[arcobob]

It's often said that the perfect government is a benevolent dictator. I'm not sure I agree entirely, but the idea does have merits - provided they're geuinely benevolent.

They seem to be as rare as hens teeth. They may start out being benevolent but it does not seem to last.

 

[Oldmacdonald]

They seem to be as rare as hens teeth. They may start out being benevolent but it does not seem to last.

Can we think of any examples through history? Out of interest.

 

[Highland Mule]

Struggling to think of any. Maybe Brunei, Jordan or one of the other petro-states were close to it in the recent past, but they're all losing their shine these days.

Benevolent dictatorship - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Exfarmer]

So the rapidly produced vaccine is approved as safe. Conventionally it takes around 8 years to produce such a preparation to be safe. Does this indicate that the project was started in 2012 ?........

The Salk vaccine was rolled out in under a year!

 

[Hindsight]

Depends if people continue improved hand hygiene and keeping their distance from those not in their immediate household. However you may well be right as there will be another cohort of old people for next winter ready to die of something.

Old people tend to die? Bit unfortunate really, but there you go. Except now it is a travesty if that dead person happens to test positive for Covid. And once the vaccination is completed I just wonder if Covid deaths, as there are likely to be a few ongoing will also be held with such reverence.

 

[anzani]

The Salk vaccine was rolled out in under a year!

Polio was identified in 1908, vaccination from 1955.....

 

[hel123]

Old people tend to die? Bit unfortunate really, but there you go. Except now it is a travesty if that dead person happens to test positive for Covid. And once the vaccination is completed I just wonder if Covid deaths, as there are likely to be a few ongoing will also be held with such reverence.

Once the vaccine is here the corona testing threshold will change so it doesn't pick up as many positive cases and then pneumonia and flu deaths will come back like every other year except 2020 when they disappeared.

Job done then all the politicians can give them a pat on the back for sorting it

 

[Exfarmer]

Polio was identified in 1908, vaccination from 1955.....

No work had been done on development of a vaccine until the March of Dimes programme was set up. This was partly because nobody understood the transmission. Polio is a horrific disease which tended to strike children in clumps, I had a friend who was a victim as were, a large number who attended a nearby primary school. There were several deaths and of those who survived many of them had withered limbs
Salk took the virus and killed it with formula before injecting both himself and all his family! I believe he had trialled it in monkeys first though.
It was though a Salk vaccine which resulted in many deaths due to faulty production at a California lab. This resulted in children being ejected with live virus.
The alternative vaccine developed at the same time The Sabin vaccine also had issues this was a live vaccine which had been attenuated and it was discovered it could reattewnuate itself in recipients and although they never developed the disease they could pass it to non vaccinated people in exceptional circumstances

 

[Still Farming]

WTF section possibly too???:-

https://www.facebook.com/228735667216/posts/10158352256152217

 

[Old Boar]

I'll let them "test" it on a raft of old biddies first thanks.

Thanks for your care and compassion, from an old biddy.