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[SilliamWhale]

I'm not at all surprised the ploughed turnips did the best - they would have had the benifit of loads of mineralised n to get them going surely ?

Something I picked up from Fredric Thomas last time was that some French zero tillers were often establishing their cover crops with a light surface cultivation rather than their zerotil drills, I can see the logic in that to get that initial burst of mineralised N to get a quick early growth. Most zero tillers seem to agree than crops are slower in the autumn and often look poorer than their cultivated equivalents but soon catch up in the spring. Most cover crops never get that spring chance to forfill potential

Yes but really we should be capable of getting no till turnips just as good with the right amount of N placed and the right ph management. Its just slightly depressing to read it because generally its missing out on potential benefits but not quite understanding the preparation.

I guess you could cultivate and broadcast covers. You could probably also give them a touch of fert in the row.

 

[benferg]

@benferg

Hi

We were drilling brassicas at our other farm, I would say it was too dry and the drill did not have sufficient Coulter pressure. We were in the middle of a dry spell

was it a triple disc or single disc drill your neighbour was using?

 

[combineguy]

was it a triple disc or single disc drill your neighbour was using?

Hi Ben

Just a single disc with a firming wheel beside

 

[benferg]

sounds like my jd or gaspardo :-(

 

[combineguy]

Hi

It was an Gaspardo

 

[benferg]

a good drill, had a demo of one.

liked the closer row spacing compared to the JD, has a nice computer that is very accurate. not as robust & not quite as good at penetration as jd IMO.

Quite a few of them around hawkes bay area.

 

[JD-Kid]

what brand was the neighbour using, were there conditions that didn't favour drilling earlier eg soil temp or too wet?

have to agree with ben i would not go pointing fingers at just the drill seen a fair few CS redrills 99% not the drills fualt just people trying to cheet the system most times too cold and wet other main ones pests and too deep

 

[benferg]

Hey @JD-Kid you still getting rained on out there??

I've seen some paddocks of boiler plate dry small stone soil drilled where the CS still put the seed down into the soil, not that there was any moisture about.

In saying that though heard it said a few times that it's better to plant into moist soil rather than waiting for it to rain on the dry stuff.

When I had the gaspardo on demo i tried drilling one paddock and struggled with penetration, recon the JD would have got it in further. I left the paddock for two days till it rained & then drilled it. For some reason it was a failure & the agent said I'd drilled the paddock too deep which was bulls**t recon cut worm got to it. Cos another paddock in same soils drilled same day just over the fence was perfect. only oher thing would have been a spray residual thing.

 

[JD-Kid]

missed out on the rain over night got good rain over new years etc etc

the old saying drill in dust grow it must holds true

the gaspardo seen one think it's a bit light the JD ummm a bit better but i think there are better single disc openers out there

 

[benferg]

still raining here had 20 mm so far!!

Don't grow in a bag either, but it's easier drilling when there's a bit of moisture in the soil too.

 

[combineguy]

have to agree with ben i would not go pointing fingers at just the drill seen a fair few CS redrills 99% not the drills fualt just people trying to cheet the system most times too cold and wet other main ones pests and too deep

Hi

Was not pointing fingers, just stating what was happening.

 

[benferg]

Hi

Was not pointing fingers, just stating what was happening.

I point the finger lots, generally at me in the mirror.

If conditions were marginal I'd rather a CS than a gaspardo or JD any day.

 

[JD-Kid]

I point the finger lots, generally at me in the mirror.

If conditions were marginal I'd rather a CS than a gaspardo or JD any day.

strange i'd sooner a tine drill type and style depending on the crops sowen

 

[benferg]

I guess it depends on what we call marginal here lately it's on the dry side or generally ugly. Only place I'll use the renovator is on very steep stuff

 

[combineguy]

Hi

Had a look over our crops, they have certainly got the moisture they were after.

@benferg is there much insect pressure up your way. Aphid and Nesesis doing a bit of damage around here

 

[benferg]

The later barley paddocks we are whole cropping have very plump grains brassica crops were struggling but have improved with rain also. Have seen new rust in barley though.

Yes nysius is about not so much aphid yet.

 

[York]

The later barley paddocks we are whole cropping have very plump grains brassica crops were struggling but have improved with rain also. Have seen new rust in barley though.

Yes nysius is about not so much aphid yet.

do a tissue sampling and you will see what you are short of.
So get the nutrition right & this will be in most cases think of the past.
York-Th.
p.s. but it's cheaper to put a spray on than to pay for a tissue sample. :-( to learn what could be improved.

 

[benferg]

@York

I'm normally very tolerant, but after having a main gearbox on the forager fail my fuse is short & you pee me off.

If you'd seen the paddocks I was thinking about rather than spouting pre recorded crap you'd have known that water was the main issue. It's a river bed for a paddock you @#%^$%^&%^*@#. get rain & it grows. Really well in fact.

 

[York]

@York

I'm normally very tolerant, but after having a main gearbox on the forager fail my fuse is short & you pee me off.

If you'd seen the paddocks I was thinking about rather than spouting pre recorded crap you'd have known that water was the main issue. It's a river bed for a paddock you @#%^$%^&%^*@#. get rain & it grows. Really well in fact.

benferg,
sorry if I upset you.
But did I address yourself? Sorry, no. If I would have replied you directly I would have addressed you with: "Hello Benferg...." I did you your post to have a reference to refer to, but not to upset or insult you at all. At least this is my understanding to make a difference how to address directly & / or not directly.
I have seen crops dying of water shortage even with 8 runs of the irrigation & a water table less than 100 cm below ground.
The people who have visited me & the participants of the CS tour in D. have seen this place.
York-Th.
p.s. I hope you found a solution for the gear box and I wish you that you get the grown crops in at the right time. As this is the reward of the farmer, isn't it.

 

[benferg]

York in the world of the internet & strangely email too it is a crazy notion that if you reply to something with the previous post attached into it, it's a really good chance that it has something to do with the mentioned post.

Oops I forgot to quote your last post. Oh well I'll let you make up your mind on it.

Water is fascinating, it isn't always a straight line on how things are affected.