Dealer having a laugh

[Finn farmer]

So, i went to the MF dealers depot, our old salesman has given up on selling tractors and is now selling implements only, so a new salesman sits behind the desk. I offered our 2018 Case Maxxum 135 Cvx with 3200 hours for trade-in for a MF 6718 Dyna-Vt Exclusive. Cost to change came to 75k€ inc. Vat. Essentially the same spec, same loader, all the bells and whistles excluding front liftarms and pto (and MF isn't autosteer ready whereas our Case is). Then i started going back down the memory lane, in 2018 we got an offer trading our MF 5610 for 6718 Dyna-Vt Exclusive for only 4k€ more (so 79k€ incl. Vat). 6718 was exactly the same spec as the one we specced back in 2018.

Needless to say, we're not too keen to swap. Mf seems atleast 20k€ overpriced.

 

[Lofty1984]

That salesman needs a kick in the knackers

 

[nick...]

That salesman needs a kick in the knackers

Don’t they all
nick...

 

[Finn farmer]

That salesman needs a kick in the knackers

Yeah, cost to change seems a "bit" steep. Well, the Case has plenty of life in it, maybe it'll see us to the end of the farming career which is going to be sometime in the next 5 years.

 

[icanshootwell]

Just of a matter of interest, what did he value the case at?

 

[Finn farmer]

Just of a matter of interest, what did he value the case at?

95k€ incl. Vat. Dealer over values trade-in, so it looks good for the farmer.

 

[GeorgeK]

I'm told if you run Fendts, they appreciate so much in value dealer pays YOU to change them!

 

[Finn farmer]

I'm told if you run Fendts, they appreciate so much in value dealer pays YOU to change them!

Yeah. Probably the only option. Too bad that the Fendt dealer wants to sell us a Valtra. They're the most expensive ones of them all.

 

[Muddyroads]

When I priced a 6713 against a Fendt 312 last year, the MF came in a bit under 25k more expensive. Green with red wheels here now.

 

[Richard Smyth]

Am I missing something. Isn’t the mf 50 hp bigger than the case which would make it more

 

[Finn farmer]

Am I missing something. Isn’t the mf 50 hp bigger than the case which would make it more

145hp base vs 180hp base. We aren't pricing it against Case, we're offering our Case against a new Mf 6718 in trade. The thing is that dealer values our Maxxum only 4k€ more valuable than the old dealer did our MF 5610 back in 2018. They're in completely different league so in my opinion the Case should be worth way more in trade-in. Especially since the 6718 is exactly the same spec as it was back in 2018 when we priced them last time (and it lost to Case then).

But in the end we're not under any pressure to swap tractors, dealer was just boasting that he'd make us an great offer on new 6718, turned out not to be that great.

 

[Finn farmer]

When I priced a 6713 against a Fendt 312 last year, the MF came in a bit under 25k more expensive. Green with red wheels here now.

Different story here. Fendt/Valtra dealer pushes Valtra hard and only sells the Fendt for those who won't bother him by haggling.

 

[Lincsman]

Its the dealers tractor... he can charge what he likes.

 

[Lofty1984]

Not the sales man tractor though plenty of sales men lose the dealer the sale by being way to greedy to start with and then insulting the customer by slashing a load off a few weeks later or when they catch wind your looking else where first price should be best price

 

[Pistonbroke]

95k€ incl. Vat. Dealer over values trade-in, so it looks good for the farmer.

A neighbour was bragging about trading in a well used tractor for the same price as he'd payed for it, used, five years earlier. The dealer moved it on to another dealer who then spent money refurbing brakes and advertised it for six Grand less than the original trade-in value. I'm certain neither dealer was losing money on the deal

 

[Finn farmer]

Its the dealers tractor... he can charge what he likes.

Yes, i know that. Was just wondering how much the MF has appreciated/Case has depreciated in the last 2,5 years. But with MF sales going down, can they afford to charge what they like. Selling global series to retired old men won't float them in long term.

As i said we're not in any real need of a new tractor, we were just checking out the "great deal" that the dealer was touting about. Not so great after all. Maybe (surely) great for him though had we taken it.

 

[manhill]

That salesman needs a kick in the knackers

That translates to 'ball's in English and ????? In Finnish?

 

[Finn farmer]

That translates to 'ball's in English and ????? In Finnish?

Potku palleille (kick to the balls) or potku kiveksille (kick to the testicles).

Very educational.

 

[manhill]

Potku palleille (kick to the balls) or potku kiveksille (kick to the testicles).
Very educational.

So I'll be careful not to get potkued when I'm working the cattle. They understand English already so should be ok with Finnish.

 

[Finn farmer]

So I'll be careful not to get potkued when I'm working the cattle. They understand English already so should be ok with Finnish.

Perkele (with an overstated R) is very effective. No matter where you are, the people and animals will know that you're (really) upset.

As for the finnish language and ways to bend a word...