Detectorists found guilty of theft

[Red Fred]

Detectorists stole Viking hoard that 'rewrites history'

Most of the coins and jewellery, believed to have been hidden by Vikings, are still missing.

www.bbc.co.uk

Looks as if the farmer wasn't informed of what they found

 

[Campbell]

Local area, but don't know the farmer.

 

[Still Farming]

Detectorists stole Viking hoard that 'rewrites history'

Most of the coins and jewellery, believed to have been hidden by Vikings, are still missing.

www.bbc.co.uk

Looks as if the farmer wasn't informed of what they found

Report as treasure trove to the portable antiquities officer finds ,Museum more like it?

 

[renewablejohn]

They then wonder why when they come on TFF that farmers wont let them detect on their land.

 

[Red Fred]

Report as treasure trove to the portable antiquities officer finds ,Museum more like it?

They were done for non-reporting to the authorities as well as theft. The article states that they didn't inform the farmer and landowner of what they had found but went to get it valued, which I think is the theft bit

 

[Red Fred]

I do a bit of detecting on my own place, although not as much as I would like, and it really is a fascinating pastime, but it does seem to bring out the worst in some people.

 

[Still Farming]

They were done for non-reporting to the authorities as well as theft. The article states that they didn't inform the farmer and landowner of what they had found but went to get it valued, which I think is the theft bit

Landowner and farmer jointly with finds officers needed reporting that they did'nt.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

I never give permission for our patch to be detected.

It doesn’t stop them though. I often find little spade sods flipped over. Twunts can’t even be bothered to hide their blatant trespassing.

 

[Still Farming]

I never give permission for our patch to be detected.

It doesn’t stop them though. I often find little spade sods flipped over. Twunts can’t even be bothered to hide their blatant trespassing.

Night hawkers , sorry thought neighbour's land, footpath (only to get A to B but some think right to do anything on them),etc etc etc.
We do let 1 chap that been for 50yrs.
Small and big stuff found and would NEVER be found otherwise and historically recorded ,seen and glimps into the past that people did on the same patch we still till,thousands of years before.

Great leveller and connection to your land.

As everywhere, good and bad about and some landowners attitudes are" what ever is there is mine ",and will remain so well after they are long gone also.

 

[Boysground]

I allow one chap here. He is really interested in the local history and has a couple of ideas of what may be in some of my fields. There has been one massive find of a Saxon broach (most of it anyway). All recorded correctly and valued. It was sold to a museum and we got a substantial £50 between us. The most disappointing thing is it’s not really that attractive and almost certainly won’t go on display which is a shame.

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[Boysground]

Should add we were given no choice over what happened to the broach.

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[Still Farming]

Should add we were given no choice over what happened to the broach.

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Usually when finds are reported there is a coroner's inquest then often sent to the British Museum to be researched and recorded and valued then if they want or your local Museum want to acquire an offer is made to you the landowner and the finder or dectorist and then if both agree and what ever understanding or half each agreement is in place, then after months you receive your payment .
The national or Local Museum will let you know when ,where,etc.the items will be displayed to the public .

 

[Boysground]

Usually when finds are reported there is a coroner's inquest then often sent to the British Museum to be researched and recorded and valued then if they want or your local Museum want to acquire an offer is made to you the landowner and the finder or dectorist and then if both agree and what ever understanding or half each agreement is in place, then after months you receive your payment .
The national or Local Museum will let you know when ,where,etc.the items will be displayed to the public .

Thats exactly what has happened

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[goodevans]

I have a chap who comes here who was at school with my brother 45 years ago and the last couple of sundays have really enjoyed walking around with him for an hour or so with my 7 yr old who is also hooked last week found a hammered James 1st coin ,worth next to nothing but very exciting

 

[Red Fred]

In this instance, they were detecting without permission on land owned by Lord Cawfield, so I think that that is the theft part of the charges, while the other part is for failing to declare.

 

[Still Farming]

In this instance, they were detecting without permission on land owned by Lord Cawfield, so I think that that is the theft part of the charges, while the other part is for failing to declare.

Thats why they got arrested and prosecuted!
Made an example of also.

 

[MrNoo]

Night Hawkers, we get them around here, the tell tale holes to be seen in the morning, cant stand them. Last lot I caught I told them their van wouldnt be parked where they left it and suggested they'd need the fire service if seen again.
Same old, same old, "we've got permission Gov" to which I ask who gave it to them, usually some made up name who lives in the big house.
"I'm on a footpath mate so all legal"
Scum
But I do have an old boy (Chairman of detector Club) who has been on the farm for eons, lovely chap and always comes and shows me what he's found and explains everything about it. Seem to find a lot of forged coins. But even he isnt a Saint as was arrested in Greece when trying to leave along with most of his club as they were deemed to be taking artifacts from the country!!

 

[Cowcalf]

seems barmy they get longer jail sentence than some murderers

 

[JCMaloney]

Well first up they never had the landowners permission. Secondly they didn`t abide by the Treasure Act 1996, probably because of the first part. Thirdly they tried flogging the stuff off on the black market.
At any stage they could have backed up but the greed button gets triggered and folk get in far beyond their depth.
Not only have they got pretty sharp sentences the knowledge the hoard could have provided is lost and they`ve got a proceeds of crime investigation to look forward too.
The damage to the hobby is almost a by product.
I can see it heading towards licencing in the not to distant future.

 

[Still Farming]

Well first up they never had the landowners permission. Secondly they didn`t abide by the Treasure Act 1996, probably because of the first part. Thirdly they tried flogging the stuff off on the black market.
At any stage they could have backed up but the greed button gets triggered and folk get in far beyond their depth.
Not only have they got pretty sharp sentences the knowledge the hoard could have provided is lost and they`ve got a proceeds of crime investigation to look forward too.
The damage to the hobby is almost a by product.
I can see it heading towards licencing in the not to distant future.

You don't mess with The Crown .