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I don't really know - but the question still stands if you're adding propcorn minerals or whatever to a mix with a diet feeder.Thought that was more to do with minerals?
I don't really know - but the question still stands if you're adding propcorn minerals or whatever to a mix with a diet feeder.Thought that was more to do with minerals?
Keenan with the bale handlers could be ok. Just chuck the bale on I suppose. Ours is just an old type with knives
A tub will mash it up a bit on normal silage but the problem really becomes visible if u hit a wet year like 2017 with really wet silage itl churn it into balls whereas a paddle wont do it. My opinion on this isnt a popular 1 but theres no way id be buyin a tub it would either be a keenan or a hi spec paddle
I have another slightly stupid question. If you are making a home mix, you need to notify your NIFQA or Red Tractor, depending on where you are - to the best of my knowledge they're meant to go through your mix ratios and facilities with a fine tooth comb. Is this the case if you mix your own straights into a TMR?
Old keenan 115,so 11.5cube is about full with two bales if it's dryish stuffI've never heard of this being an issue.
I think a tub on low tyres you could load no issue. We changed from paddle to tub around 7 years ago and would never go back, went for a new one and have never had to put a spanner near it as of yet. 12cuM holds about 4t for us at 15% grain inclusion with a spillage ring.
I’ve got one of those. One of the last onesmade and it is fairly ancient now. Also got an older worn out one with the original American design which has the drive chains at the back. The type above is far superior in every way, paricularly reliability. Mine was built at the Kidd factory in Devises if I remember correctly.These type are lower if you are concerned about height. They will handle bales quite well so long as they are chopped.
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I'm coming from a place of zero experience with this so I'm hoping some people on here with experience can help:
I'm planning on upgrading my feeding method to use a diet feeder. The only problem is that most of my loader work is done with an old JCB 3cx or a NH 7740 with front loader, so I don't have a massive lift height.
I'm thinking that this probably limits me to a paddle mixer like a Keenan. Everyone seems to have an opinion of the Keenans but I've never really heard the justifications. Just how slowly do they run and are they reliable? Is there any way of feeding bales with them that doesn't involve some sort of additional chopper?)
Additionally, I feed cows, youngstock, finishers and for part of the winter, sheep in the same yard, so will I really be saving any time over just bucket feeding meal?
Thanks in advance for opinions and suggestions
Theres a kennan beside me and it has a bale kit way knives and big bar things on top of it that ye set the bale on and it takes the bale in in bits. It works well. I dont see an issue with itHow do get a paddle to eat bales?
If you spend money your money on a mixer, a tractor to run it and the running costs of said unit, will all your pennies come back to you in increased profits or efficiency? Will it save any time?
No way. Not unless the feed mixed was short chopped damp silage with a lot of meal. For 100 greedy cattle in one load you would need a 14 cube minimum. If chopping bales, bigger and a lot of time. Forget the Keenan for bales. In fact forget a tumbler feeder altogether. I had one for six or seven years.Ideally I'd be able to feed around 100 finishing cattle in one run. Would I be right in saying that a 10 cubic meter capacity would be sufficient for this?
Theres a kennan beside me and it has a bale kit way knives and big bar things on top of it that ye set the bale on and it takes the bale in in bits. It works well. I dont see an issue with it
There was a keenan with a bale cradle where I used to work. Not an experience I'd like to repeat.You and the owner of the Keenan must possess more patience than most.
Where I worked ten years ago had the same set up, the constant cling clangs still haunt my dreams now!There was a keenan with a bale cradle where I used to work. Not an experience I'd like to repeat.
I'm coming from a place of zero experience with this so I'm hoping some people on here with experience can help:
I'm planning on upgrading my feeding method to use a diet feeder. The only problem is that most of my loader work is done with an old JCB 3cx or a NH 7740 with front loader, so I don't have a massive lift height.
I'm thinking that this probably limits me to a paddle mixer like a Keenan. Everyone seems to have an opinion of the Keenans but I've never really heard the justifications. Just how slowly do they run and are they reliable? Is there any way of feeding bales with them that doesn't involve some sort of additional chopper?)
Additionally, I feed cows, youngstock, finishers and for part of the winter, sheep in the same yard, so will I really be saving any time over just bucket feeding meal?
Thanks in advance for opinions and suggestions
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I’d say your 3cx or 7740 would manage to load a 12cube tub
Wel i dont feed bales thru my diet feeder. Its a star paddle feeder and tbh i havnt hitched it on this year as i sat down at the start of winter and did a few sums and i reckoned the amount more milk i needed to be gettin to cover the total cost of extra meal and runnin feeder id only be coverin cost if even gettin that so i didnt bother. But wouldnt rule out that itl be back on in futureYou and the owner of the Keenan must possess more patience than most.
What about a wagonI watched a demo of Keenan and tubs at Carlisle mart years ago , I thought this will
Be akward for Keenan it made much better job of bales than tubs fed it out much better as well but I was assured by the tub men that is was a fluke ! The tubs just spew it over the side . Their are two things in this world for chopping grass one is a forage harvester and the other is a set of teeth anything else is a poor alternative.