Differences between Case CVX 195 and Case CVX 1170?

[Theswede]

I need your help on the subject above...

I currently run a Case CVX 195 along with two Case MX 170's. The CVX is my only tractor that can handle my butterfly moco and my maizedrill, due to front pto and hydraulics. And because it's closing in on 6500 hours I have been thinking a bit about changing one of the MX's to something a bit better, that can aid my CVX a bit when needed. My CVX has been truly amazing, giving almost no bother at all although it has been run to it's limits many of it's hours so far. This have made me thinking of buying another CVX when I find the right object... and today I think I might have found it...

Today I read an advert on a Case CVX 1170 from 2005 in absolutely mint condition, it has only been run for 1350 hours! (!!!). The price seemed okay and they said they would even take in my MX 170 and pay pretty good for it, so I have decided to take a look at the CVX on monday.

But this has made me thinking of the differences between the CVX 1170 and the CVX 195... What are the main differences? Of course the cab and the layout inside it is a bit different, but what are the mechanial differences? I believe the CVX 1170 is a tier 2 machine and my CVX 195 is a tier 3. Which is better? My CVX pulls very, very good and is also light on diesel, better than all demo tractors I have had for the last 5 years or so. Will there be big differences in engine performance between the two? Am I right in thinking both machines are almost identical when it comes to front and back ends and transmissions? Becuase if they are, I will push up the 1170 to 190 bhp right away. How is that done on a tier 2 engine? Just turn the screw on the pump? If I remember correctly I have been reading somewhere a long time ago that the first gen CVX had Stanadyne pumps which were not that good, and the second generation got Bosch diesel pumps... are they any better?

Please help me point out all the differences between the two... any thoughts are welcome!

 

[Zebbedee]

As far as I,m aware you covered all the points there, engine being the biggest difference and cab layout dash on pillar and roof space etc there are also some software differences as well oh it's Bosch injection pump but will need remap or tuning box to up horsepower

 

[Theswede]

Thanks!

Is it still Bosch fuel injection on T3 engines or have they yet another brand?

 

[Zebbedee]

Bosch I think?

 

[ilovebalingtoo]

what is a 170 worth in sweden out of interest?

 

[Theswede]

This mint CVX 1170 got a list price of 40 000 with current exchange rates. However I got offered 16 000 for my 7000h MX...

 

[saly123]

If only you were closer. Been looking for a tidy mx170 for a while.

 

[cvx175]

If only you were closer. Been looking for a tidy mx170 for a while.

Not the only one there

 

[Zebbedee]

I used to have an mx170 years ago didn't,t really rate it much!!!! However the mx 120 opened up a bit on the pump was a tremendous tractor

 

[Fendt516]

Ran a cvx1170 for six years/8k hrs. Had a new alternator and a seal in front wheel. One of the best tractors I've had. That was a 2005 machine.

 

[Theswede]

Ran a cvx1170 for six years/8k hrs. Had a new alternator and a seal in front wheel. One of the best tractors I've had. That was a 2005 machine.

Sounds promising!

 

[highland-man]

The 1170 are basically Steyr tractors aren't they ? If it's the one I'm thinking off a neighbour had the Steyr equivalent and it was a fantastic tractor.

 

[Gerbert]

Neighbour contractor had a cvx150, swopped it only after almost 13,000 hours. He still has a 170 which must have the same hours at least by now. It is now a reserve tractor but still does it's fair share. The 150 had a few problems with the engine but the 170 has never been opened up and only had new dog clutches in the transmission a couple of times. He wanted to swop the 170 but as he got fck all for it he decided to keep it as back up.