Direct drilling Hybrid Rye into old pasture

[zetor-man]

Hi All

Will be attempting to direct drill Hybrid Rye into an old pasture

The field has been subsoiled , its heavy soil , though water dosent ly on it .

Will be drilled using an old type Moore unidrill @ 133 mm spacings

Location Northern Ireland

Looking for advice, and do's and don'ts , please

 

[Will Blackburn]

With a pH like that and Mg levels where they are it would suggest the ground maybe really short of calcium. Whether rye can cope with that I wouldn’t know?

 

[zetor-man]

Dont know, will ask my seed supplier


What is the best time and type of spray to kill off the existing sward ?

 

[Jdunn55]

Ph needs sorting first and foremost. Probably atleast 1t/acre of lime if not 1.5
Roundup asap to give enough time to get the rye in,
Once brown run through the ground with a einbock/chain harrow a few times then direct drill.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Dont know, will ask my seed supplier


What is the best time and type of spray to kill off the existing sward ?

6 L Roundup and Wetter Per Hectare
First two need 2 ton of Calcium lime last one 1 ton , 5 days after spraying .
You can either drill straight away or wait till lime as gone on - dont lime before spraying or that will delay you further

 

[Warnesworth]

How do those fields normally yield? Grass or arable.

 

[zetor-man]

Thanks

the plan is spray with glyphosate Monday, drill Tuesday and sheep in Saturday to graze all old grass off

Wont have time to sort the PH now, i was hoping rye will be more tolerant to a low PH?

 

[zetor-man]

Fields yield really well in silage and grass

drilling today ahead of the rain forecast for tommorrow

 

[zetor-man]

Rye drilled yesterday ,

land subsoiled, sprayed off, drilled , ready for sheep now to graze off

 

[chaffcutter]

Put some prilled lime on when it’s up, easy.

 

[Jdunn55]

Put some prilled lime on when it’s up, easy.

Definitely better than doing nothing, I wouldn't be planting anything in ph 0.0000001 less than 6 and would be trying my hardest to get it to 6.5

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Rye drilled yesterday ,

land subsoiled, sprayed off, drilled , ready for sheep now to graze off

Will you keep us posted how it does Ive just drilled some Westerwolds so would be nice to compare with yours

 

[zetor-man]

Hi Derrick

Will do, its took a lot of rain over the weekend, plus i think i put in in too deep .....

 

[zetor-man]

Land subsoiled with Erth subsoiler after a late second cut

had about a ton of lime on

Drilled with Moore uni drill with a rye grass timothy mixture

sheep going on it this weekend

Also land well saturated now too

 

[Stinker]

Hi zetor man. I know this was a while ago but How did your rye crop end up? I'm tempted to do the same.

 

[zetor-man]

hi , it didn't do at all

might have worked better with a tyne drill, as the rye grew where the leg of the sub soiler went through

 

[Stinker]

OK. That's interesting. I'm to scared to plough the fields because I'm worried about the soil washing away over winter. Maybe a quick disc up is the answer?

 

[zetor-man]

more seed soil contact with min till or cultivator drill


rye is a hard crop to establish i think

 

[Tractor Tim]

I've sown heavyish land with a gd disk drill usually go three ways on it and had good results 98 percent of the time spray and lime and anything else it needs first it's just the leather jackets you need to watch for

 

[Stinker]

I've sown heavyish land with a gd disk drill usually go three ways on it and had good results 98 percent of the time spray and lime and anything else it needs first it's just the leather jackets you need to watch for

How long after spraying would you apply lime and how long after that would you plant? Tempted to throw some vetch in as well and chop the lot next June