Dividing grain wall specification

[Pan mixer]

I want to divide my grainstore down the middle, I am not keen on those wooden or concrete removable dividers and propose to build a wall to hold back 8 - 10 feet depth of grain each side.

I am willing to use panels or cast a wall, where do I get a specification of girders/foundations please?

TIA

 

[SilliamWhale]

I've just used rsj's and 4" panels slid between

 

[RWG Contracts]

I want to divide my grainstore down the middle, I am not keen on those wooden or concrete removable dividers and propose to build a wall to hold back 8 - 10 feet depth of grain each side.

I am willing to use panels or cast a wall, where do I get a specification of girders/foundations please?

TIA

What width is the store?

 

[Pan mixer]

What width is the store?

40 feet

 

[David.]

Know someone who was asked to quote a similar job in a 1000 ton store, structural engineer had specced heavy 203 203 ( I think, not 254 254) universal column with 6" panels between and each post to have 5 cube of concrete round it

 

[RWG Contracts]

40 feet

So it'll be 2 20' bays?

Could panel it, use 150mm panels and 203 x 203 x 46 universal columns but you'll need post about 1200mm below Ffl and about 3 cube of concrete around them

 

[RWG Contracts]

Or a 203x133 shuttered would be fine but you'll need tie bars into the floor

 

[Pan mixer]

That is all sounding terribly complicated and pricey indeed

 

[RWG Contracts]

That is all sounding terribly complicated and pricey indeed

Or just 178x102 and shutter it? You don't need to worry about the customer kicking off if it cracks

 

[SimonB]

What is the width of the building and what crop are you having either side of this partition?.

Many Thanks



Kind Regards



Brett Harris

Technical Estimator





Graham Heath Construction Ltd

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[Pan mixer]

What is the width of the building and what crop are you having either side of this partition?.

Many Thanks



Kind Regards



Brett Harris

Technical Estimator

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Graham Heath Construction Ltd

The Creamery, Wrenbury Industrial Estate, Station Road, Wrenbury, CW5 8EX

T: 01270 781158 (EXT 1018)

E: [email protected]

W:www.gh-construction.co.uk



For CE marked concrete panels and interlocking blocks for immediate delivery or collection, please call the Sales Team on 01270 258076.

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Forty feet wide total and wheat/barley, no rape peas or beans.

 

[Badshot]

My store is seperated by the wooden windtunnel. It's just rawl bolted into the floor. Stands OK. Can see it slightly pushing one side to the other if you look along the handrail when loaded one side.

 

[Forever Fendt]

I want to divide my grainstore down the middle, I am not keen on those wooden or concrete removable dividers and propose to build a wall to hold back 8 - 10 feet depth of grain each side.

I am willing to use panels or cast a wall, where do I get a specification of girders/foundations please?

TIA

buy some free standers for @Unbrako precast fit them in half a day,100% tax deductible as movable and when you have done with them they will have a good resale value were as your wall will not and you could change you system or layout and the wall could prove a problem where as the free standers 1/2 a day its sorted

 

[Unbrako precast]

They cover 1.2m and are available in 2,2.5,3 and 3.5m high.
They can be loaded to full height from one side without needing to be bolted down.

 

[Tarw Coch]

I want to divide my grainstore down the middle, I am not keen on those wooden or concrete removable dividers and propose to build a wall to hold back 8 - 10 feet depth of grain each side.

I am willing to use panels or cast a wall, where do I get a specification of girders/foundations please?

TIA

Got to ask, why aren't you keen on the concrete free standing panels?
They will probably be cheaper than shuttering a wall or posts and panels, can be put in in a relatively short space of time and can easily be moved if your requirements change.

 

[Badshot]

Got to ask, why aren't you keen on the concrete free standing panels?
They will probably be cheaper than shuttering a wall or posts and panels, can be put in in a relatively short space of time and can easily be moved if your requirements change.

I know of two a panel walls that stayed still in.place for 5+ years, then slid one day. One in the evening after finishing for the day, and one mid winter.
They're now bolted down.

 

[bert]

They cover 1.2m and are available in 2,2.5,3 and 3.5m high.
They can be loaded to full height from one side without needing to be bolted down.

Even on a polished floor?

 

[Tarw Coch]

I know of two a panel walls that stayed still in.place for 5+ years, then slid one day. One in the evening after finishing for the day, and one mid winter.
They're now bolted down.

Quite a few different makes of them and looks quite a lot of variation in weight, I have some JP Concrete ones, they look a lot heavier than some.

 

[Pan mixer]

Got to ask, why aren't you keen on the concrete free standing panels?
They will probably be cheaper than shuttering a wall or posts and panels, can be put in in a relatively short space of time and can easily be moved if your requirements change.

I am warming to the idea although a friend had his move sideways in harvest with annoying consequences as well as the cost. They weren't the same design as the Unbrako ones though.

I must admit that the size of the foundations for a cast wall above won't be cheap either

 

[Unbrako precast]

Even on a polished floor?

They are very heavy ,(3.5m = 3.25t ) , their shape means that the weight of the grain against them presses down on the sloping base and adds to the weight and resistance further.
The trouble with some designs is they are a true "A" shape and the grain is solely pushing them away , not trapping them so to speak.
We have sold thousands and never heard of them slipping, except of course when machines push to hard against them.