Dockstar ?

[Tha Ulsterscot]

Anyone know the current price for a 3 ltr. pack ?

 

[Headless chicken]

Bloody expensive, generic fluroxypyr 1/2 dose twice in the season add fulvic acid for a better chemical transfer

 

[Derrick Hughes]

£73 for 2 lires
Never use it
fluroxypyr as above is s fraction of the cost and works just as well

 

[Tha Ulsterscot]

£73 for 2 lires
Never use it
fluroxypyr as above is s fraction of the cost and works just as well

thanks.

 

[deleted user 837354]

I would say doxstar is a far stiffer product than fluroxypyr alone. You can use a reduced rate of doxstar and then stiffen it with straight fluroxypyr just don't go above the maximum flurox dose.

Use plenty of water volume and good steady spraying. This isn't like killing pishy weeds in a cereal. Grassland weeds grow from root mass. Adjuvants help.

 

[Happy]

Nothing with docks in grassland is a one year only clear out in my experience.
Far cheaper going back in 2 or 3 times with generic fluroxypr than 2 or 3 times with Dockstar.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Ive used both somtimes in the same field ,only diference ive noticed is the cost
Timing is what makes tbe difference though

 

[Cowlife]

I would say doxstar is a far stiffer product than fluroxypyr alone. You can use a reduced rate of doxstar and then stiffen it with straight fluroxypyr just don't go above the maximum flurox dose.

Use plenty of water volume and good steady spraying. This isn't like killing pishy weeds in a cereal. Grassland weeds grow from root mass. Adjuvants help.

When you say adjuvant what specifically would you add. I've no docks myself obviously but asking for a friend

 

[Cowlife]

Bloody expensive, generic fluroxypyr 1/2 dose twice in the season add fulvic acid for a better chemical transfer
Excuse the uneducated question from a livestock farmer. Is fulvic in addition to an adjuvant or replacing it? Throw me a couple of brand names to look up here please.

 

[deleted user 837354]

When you say adjuvant what specifically would you add. I've no docks myself obviously but asking for a friend

I used to use Solar plus, there are many others.

 

[BigBarl]

There is a new generic available from Clayton which should work out a bit cheaper

https://claytonpp.com/product/clayton-docker/

 

[davidroberts30]

Best thing with docks is cut the field once or twice to get all docks at same growth stage
Wait till they are about 8 to 10 inch across then spray the lot
That should give a good 90%+kill

 

[deleted user 837354]

Best thing with docks is cut the field once or twice to get all docks at same growth stage
Wait till they are about 8 to 10 inch across then spray the lot
That should give a good 90%+kill

I would agree, often people try to spray ahead of first cut and the weather just isn't warm enough. After first cut when it is warm and they are all growing fresh foliage seems to work better, at least as far as I have seen.

 

[davidroberts30]

I would agree, often people try to spray ahead of first cut and the weather just isn't warm enough. After first cut when it is warm and they are all growing fresh foliage seems to work better, at least as far as I have seen.

Before 1st cut the docks are all at different growth stages
From too soon to spray to just right to too late
Cutting evens them up so after 2nd cut works well

 

[Davy]

Bloody expensive, generic fluroxypyr 1/2 dose twice in the season add fulvic acid for a better chemical transfer

What rate for the fulvic are you using? Have you any experience of adding a dock spray to a foliar N mix?

 

[Headless chicken]

Full disclosure I do sell this as an aside in a separate business I run but below is the product I sell. I suspect there are others available that are suitable. Not checked but about £280 for 25kg a.

NTS Fulvic Acid Powder™

Australian Certified Organic (ACO) Registered Farm Input 456AI. Natural chelating agent. Increases nutrient uptake. Promotes beneficial soil microbes. Improves availability of rock minerals. Increases crop yield and quality. Compatible with a wide range of other inputs. > 90% soluble.

newgenagri.com

What rate for the fulvic are you using? Have you any experience of adding a dock spray to a foliar N mix?

As above full disclosure I do sell this product but yes I do indeed and it’s how I would apply almost all of my grass herbicide and some of my maize herbicide.

Depending on what I was attempting to achieve I would normally work around the 500g a hectare mark. In theory you can reduce you chem usage by circa 20%. Personally I have gone to a further reduction and seen excellent results. As a reasonable foundation for any of my customers we reduce the input to the value of the co product to create a cost neutral mix.

Professionally it would be foolish of me to suggest this as it could potentially lead to resistance and legally im unable to offer professional advise without being “your” advisor.

 

[deleted user 837354]

What rate for the fulvic are you using? Have you any experience of adding a dock spray to a foliar N mix?

Wait, what? You don't mean liquid ammonium nitrate, do you?

 

[DaveGrohl]

NTS Fulvic Acid Powder™

Australian Certified Organic (ACO) Registered Farm Input 456AI. Natural chelating agent. Increases nutrient uptake. Promotes beneficial soil microbes. Improves availability of rock minerals. Increases crop yield and quality. Compatible with a wide range of other inputs. > 90% soluble.

newgenagri.com

Wow, this sounds like the magic powder we’ve all benn searching for. Why haven’t we been told about this before?

Wait til the BRC get to hear about it, then they can really "invest in driving down prices……"

 

[Headless chicken]

Wow, this sounds like the magic powder we’ve all benn searching for. Why haven’t we been told about this before?

Wait til the BRC get to hear about it, then they can really "invest in driving down prices……"

it has its place. It won’t solve all your problems but it’s a building block in a program .
Largely imo it’s because it’s too cheap so people don’t get into it

 

[DaveGrohl]

it has its place. It won’t solve all your problems but it’s a building block in a program .
Largely imo it’s because it’s too cheap so people don’t get into it

Soz, I wasn’t trying to take the pee. I’d previously thought it had a use, but the highlighted box makes it sound perhaps a bit too good?