Does Dyson intend to buy England

[Kiwi Pete]

how much do you invest in your land @Kiwi Pete ?

Whatever it takes!

 

[Henarar]

Whatever it takes!

I did wonder what you would say

 

[Downtrodden Dad]

I can't see what everyone is bothered about. It's his money let him do what he wants to the fact that he is farming it well and investing hugely is a bonus. I unfortunately would not make a profit without bps as I suspect would many others, also how many family farms are propped up with outside earnings , the fact that he is a billionaire is a bonus.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I did wonder what you would say

I think Sir James and myself are simply hanging on in quiet desparation

Maybe soon there'll be locusts and pestilence and sh!t..... and my sheep will be worth 600 bucks as culls...

In the meantime, this pig keeps circling my house, and the missus wants to iron it.

(It may be do to with the constant wailing on here that money needs to be injected into the British countryside or doomsday is going to happen, yet someone does it and he is the devil incarnate - it's even foreigner's money coming in and that is somehow perceived as worse....)

He isn't going in a 36000 acre hole but some of his money is, fair play to him.

 

[Cowcorn]

Like most he’s not operating with out sub as you call it .
If land did drop in price others probably would suffer more than JD he’d probably just be able to buy more land off the people who’d borrowed to buy land !

You say the best farmers are tenants as they have rent to pay ! What about farmers with mortgages to pay !

It’s a good job there’s people like JD who’s reinvesting in to his land at the moment most of the tenanted land around me just gets the very basic investment to keep it usable.
There’s no extra money landlords don’t give a stuff a farm yard with unusable sheds from the 80’s at best poor roads no help with fencing or walls etc.

In a 100 years or so people will admire what JD did for his land and farms. Like many of the large estates did long ago. It’s a pity more can’t appreciate this.

Farmers with mortages to pay are in the same top class catergory as the tenants men who can buy land of the procedes of straight farming are where its at
I suppose its a cultural thing we Irish are very attached to land whereas a lot of you boys are either waiting around for Jim to fix ye to flash his golden wallet and buy up your farms, or have a fixation with standing down for the big fella. Any body on good cereal or dairying land with a medium sized farm who cant see themselves able to expand needs to examine what the are doing wrong I myself bought 20 acres at 14 000 acre 3 years ago on a 5 year loan Dear the first day cheaper every day after that. Hard payed for. But land is land and any old macinery will do till its payed for or the next sweet bit becomes available. As for the big estates years ago your grand fathers would know more about them and i dont think it would be to complimentary.
Finallly Jimmy the vacum cleaner tycoon could do with meeting the BULL MCABE who would give him a lesson in the ethics of buying land just because he can !!

 

[Will Wilson]

This thread is a disturbing look into the psyche of British agriculture. There are some people who genuinely have an issue with a rich man (through his own good judgement and luck) buying farmland.

How, Why? What are you scared of?

 

[JP1]

Chinese are buying up land in Europe

And Africa

 

[JP1]

This thread is a disturbing look into the psyche of British agriculture. There are some people who genuinely have an issue with a rich man (through his own good judgement and luck) buying farmland.

How, Why? What are you scared of?

It used to be our politicians were all landed gentry as the Nation didn't pay them directly . I don;t fancy that either

 

[farenheit]

This thread is a disturbing look into the psyche of British agriculture. There are some people who genuinely have an issue with a rich man (through his own good judgement and luck) buying farmland.

How, Why? What are you scared of?

Look at this greedy bugger with his long words like psyche. I think farmers should only be allowed 10 acres max and the minister should pay us to leave baler twine and mud all over the countryside. Don't need no bugger and barley barons like Dyson being all professional, training young farmers and investing in new concrete tracks...should have built them with grants like we did in the 80s...oh hang on.

 

[Will Wilson]

Everything - EVERYTHING was better in the bit of the past I can still remember.

 

[Rowland]

Farmers with mortages to pay are in the same top class catergory as the tenants men who can buy land of the procedes of straight farming are where its at
I suppose its a cultural thing we Irish are very attached to land whereas a lot of you boys are either waiting around for Jim to fix ye to flash his golden wallet and buy up your farms, or have a fixation with standing down for the big fella. Any body on good cereal or dairying land with a medium sized farm who cant see themselves able to expand needs to examine what the are doing wrong I myself bought 20 acres at 14 000 acre 3 years ago on a 5 year loan Dear the first day cheaper every day after that. Hard payed for. But land is land and any old macinery will do till its payed for or the next sweet bit becomes available. As for the big estates years ago your grand fathers would know more about them and i dont think it would be to complimentary.
Finallly Jimmy the vacum cleaner tycoon could do with meeting the BULL MCABE who would give him a lesson in the ethics of buying land just because he can !!

If you Irish are so attached to your land how did you manage to be able to buy some ?

I don’t think anyone stands down for Dyson.

What’s your major problem with Dyson buy up land .

We had a lot of Irish investors coming over to northern England and southern Scotland a few years back buying up all the land and farms, a lot cane back on the market or privately sold a few years afterwards! We didn’t bitch on about it .

At the end of the day it’s down to the vendor of land and farms who they sell it to. It’s often biggest price is best especially if your retiring .

 

[7610 super q]

This thread is a disturbing look into the psyche of British agriculture. There are some people who genuinely have an issue with a rich man (through his own good judgement and luck) buying farmland.

How, Why? What are you scared of?

It is disturbing. My psyche has never been so disturbed. Never mind, I think I'll get me a part time job outside farming, then join a farming forum, and look down on everybody with a smug, sanctimonious, self righteous aura of self satisfaction befitting my outside farming job of awesomeness.

 

[caveman]

Maybe all the nay sayers should get together and start a company with the aim of seizing the vacuum cleaner market.

 

[Cowcorn]

If you Irish are so attached to your land how did you manage to be able to buy some ?

I don’t think anyone stands down for Dyson.

What’s your major problem with Dyson buy up land .

We had a lot of Irish investors coming over to northern England and southern Scotland a few years back buying up all the land and farms, a lot cane back on the market or privately sold a few years afterwards! We didn’t bitch on about it .

At the end of the day it’s down to the vendor of land and farms who they sell it to. It’s often biggest price is best especially if your retiring .

How did i buy it? With great diffuculty seriously though i love seeing genuine farmers getting on and prospering as it beneifits the whole rural community.This is a different scenario to a billionaire using his great wealth to buy up as much land as he can get his hands on for whatever reason.Hardly for all the money he is going to make because he is not making a good return on his very substantial holdings.Such is the way of the world that many farmers will be squeezed out when an individual like Dyson is in the frame. The CAP was also a social policy to help maintain rural communities now that the uk is out is the Dyson direction the way you want British Farming to head ? If you genuinely believe that the biggest cheque book should prevail and to hell with any sort of help or support for proper family farmers then when local shops schools post offices etc are closing because lets face it jimmy and co wont be needing them you cant complain. We have a simalar situtation over here with coolmore stud buying up every acre in south Tip which is starting to annoy local farmers .
The have the benefit of Tax free stud fees to fund there purchases which is the cause of much grumbling.

 

[farenheit]

It is disturbing. My psyche has never been so disturbed. Never mind, I think I'll get me a part time job outside farming, then join a farming forum, and look down on everybody with a smug, sanctimonious, self righteous aura of self satisfaction befitting my outside farming job of awesomeness.

Not sure he is suggesting that farming isn't hard. I'd say there are others in this thread being far more sanctimonious about things. Many (more than some) of whom have inherited their little patch of England, and have farmed on subsidies their whole life and don't believe any "outsiders" should be allowed to come into farming. I'd say (some) farmers are the worst for getting involved in industries they are vastly unqualified for, judging by the number of campsites, solar panels, farm shops etc. Etc.

 

[Bootneck]

I think there is an exemption from Inheritance Tax if someone is a serving member of the Armed Forces.

No, never has been.

 

[Rowland]

How did i buy it? With great diffuculty seriously though i love seeing genuine farmers getting on and prospering as it beneifits the whole rural community.This is a different scenario to a billionaire using his great wealth to buy up as much land as he can get his hands on for whatever reason.Hardly for all the money he is going to make because he is not making a good return on his very substantial holdings.Such is the way of the world that many farmers will be squeezed out when an individual like Dyson is in the frame. The CAP was also a social policy to help maintain rural communities now that the uk is out is the Dyson direction the way you want British Farming to head ? If you genuinely believe that the biggest cheque book should prevail and to hell with any sort of help or support for proper family farmers then when local shops schools post offices etc are closing because lets face it jimmy and co wont be needing them you cant complain. We have a simalar situtation over here with coolmore stud buying up every acre in south Tip which is starting to annoy local farmers .
The have the benefit of Tax free stud fees to fund there purchases which is the cause of much grumbling.

I’ll have to be honest with you here , I’ve no idea what you mean by this post , I get the impression that you don’t want Dyson to buy farms after that not a clue and your last statement/paragraph lost me altogether.

I asked if Irish people valued their land so much how is it that the 20 acres you were able to buy even ever came up for sale.

How you paid / are paying for it is your business .

 

[Cowcorn]

I’ll have to be honest with you here , I’ve no idea what you mean by this post , I get the impression that you don’t want Dyson to buy farms after that not a clue and your last statement/paragraph lost me altogether.

I asked if Irish people valued their land so much how is it that the 20 acres you were able to buy even ever came up for sale.

How you paid / are paying for it is your business .

What i meant was Irish people giving our history the land wars of the ninteenth century the breaking up of the big estates by the united actions of the land league who organised rent strikes resisted evictions and bankrupted the landlords . The land acts followed which led to tenants getting to buy their land with british goverment long term loans which De Valera refused to continue paying in the thirties saying that we were no longer going to pay the english for our own land. Of course land is for sale in ireland but giving the historical background i have outlined a character like Dyson using his millions to buy everything he could get his hands on would get short shrift the closest comparison is coolmore stud farm in co Tipperary which has raised the hackles of some of the local farmers .You are correct in saying i dont agree with Dyson buying so much land i dont believe its a healthy devolopment but we will have to agree to disagree on that .

 

[Longlowdog]

If Big D is 'only' making 740k profit with his bulk buying power, his asset sharing abilities, his machinery in house, how little did all the smaller places he bought make?
Maybe the naysayers have a point, maybe lots of little farmers and their families should have the chance to go bust rather than one big guy wasting some of his fortune.

 

[turbo]

He spent £6 million on draining last year so I read somewhere