Draft control and ploughing.

[Foxcover]

Following on from a thread about mole ploughing, how many of you plough with draft control turned off?
I’ve always ploughed with it off, not wanting to jack the plough out a bit through a tough patch just for a bit of extra grip, having a tractor properly ballasted and on top of the job.

 

[goodevans]

Same here,never use draft

 

[daveydiesel1]

Following on from a thread about mole ploughing, how many of you plough with draft control turned off?
I’ve always ploughed with it off, not wanting to jack the plough out a bit through a tough patch just for a bit of extra grip, having a tractor properly ballasted and on top of the job.

I tske it you have fairly level ground and not humps and hollows

 

[CPF]

It always depends what ground you are Ploughing , if you have it on or off there is no point having the Plough lifting out the ground when it’s needs penetrating to take compaction area out.
But when ploughing our iron stone land, you need it on, you need to see the Plough jerking up and down so it’s not bringing up any stones .

 

[Cowabunga]

Draught control is meant to be set to subtly transfer weight, not to raise the plough by inches. If it does that, raising the plough unacceptably, you have the sensitivity set wrongly. On all modern tractors you can alter the mix of draught to position control to achieve the best result. Generally on my undulating land with variable soil condition in the same field I set it around the halfway mark and the slip control to a maximum of around 15 to 18%, depending on conditions.

 

[Drillman]

Our onland semi mount plow the op manual says use position control so I do.

I do set the slip control though to give an upper limit in trickier conditions. Although big tractor, big plow and small farm means it’s rarely an issue

 

[GeorgeK]

Don't waste time setting it up, get a bigger tractor. Minimum 150hp per furrow and you'll not want to look out the back window so saves on the neck too.

 

[serf]

Don't waste time setting it up, get a bigger tractor. Minimum 150hp per furrow and you'll not want to look out the back window so saves on the neck too.

 

[bravheart]

Following on from a thread about mole ploughing, how many of you plough with draft control turned off?
I’ve always ploughed with it off, not wanting to jack the plough out a bit through a tough patch just for a bit of extra grip, having a tractor properly ballasted and on top of the job.

Are you talking about slip control here rather than actual draft control as invented by Harry ferguson.
The draft control should just transfer a bit of weight onto the wheels without lifting the plough out the ground but the extra radar slip control will lift the plough out the ground completely in a wet bit.

 

[nick...]

Allway mix it here on my jd.probably about a third way round the dial in favour of draft,if that makes sense.
nick…

 

[davidroberts30]

on a scale of 1(position) to 5(full draught) on the fergy i never go over 1.5
that is what plough land wheels are for

 

[Cowabunga]

on a scale of 1(position) to 5(full draught) on the fergy i never go over 1.5
that is what plough land wheels are for

I use the slot on the headstock and wheel on the back. Top link pin generally at the front third of the slot in work. This is obviously with lower link electronic sensing. Sensitivity is set so the the lift and lower lights blink alternately, not too fast, during normal work. Drop speed to automatic.

 

[davidroberts30]

I use the slot on the headstock and wheel on the back. Top link pin generally at the front third of the slot in work. This is obviously with lower link electronic sensing. Sensitivity is set so the the lift and lower lights blink alternately, not too fast, during normal work.

precisely

 

[Oliveau]

Blast from the past: When ploughing with my 7000 I generally used Load Monitor……….
OK, I’ll get my coat.

 

[Foxcover]

Are you talking about slip control here rather than actual draft control as invented by Harry ferguson.
The draft control should just transfer a bit of weight onto the wheels without lifting the plough out the ground but the extra radar slip control will lift the plough out the ground completely in a wet bit.

Draft.
Set plough (6f mounted) so top link sits in middle of elongated hole in headstock.
Don’t get ridiculous amounts of slip with 10t 200hp JD unless conditions are terrible then probably knock off anyway.
Just never been happy with the idea that control lifts the plough up through a stiff patch when that’s just the area you want to be going through at the full 8 inch to loosen it up if you get me.

 

[yoki]

I guess draft control belongs to an era of 20hp (or less!) per furrow and two wheel drive.

As such it was invaluable!

 

[Andy12345]

Fendt 930 (obvs) and a KV LO onland 7 furrow , always used (as stated in the operator manual) the slotted hole. Draft control set about 30% . Lower link sensing is still operable and does its thing but as stated above I wouldnt want the plough lifting out on tougher patches!

 

[nick...]

Blast from the past: When ploughing with my 7000 I generally used Load Monitor……….
OK, I’ll get my coat.

That was a brilliant thing when it worked.i pulled a 4 furrow dowdeswell reversible with a 7600 Ford,2wd and it worked brilliantly,thEn had a 4wd 7710 ford that was absolutely useless with the same system.never got it to work right either.
nick...

 

[KB6930]

Draft control shouldn't lift actually pull it out the ground but slip control +draft will .

Set enough draft to follow undulations so you're not having to constantly manually adjust to keep the plough matching.

 

[DrWazzock]

With soft sand and hard clay patches all over over our fields, draft control is useless.
Never understand what slip control brought to the party either. I want it all ploughed at 9”. If the tractor is slipping then slow down, run narrower furrows or get a bigger tractor, don’t muck about with the plough depth.