Eating more dairy fat linked to lower risk of heart disease

[br jones]

So what would the heath experts on here think is causing arteries to fir up and eventualy couse heart problems

ultra processed foods ,

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

ultra processed foods ,

Which, sadly, includes that vast majority of what's on display in supermarkets and almost all of what's in corner shops and garages.

 

[texelburger]

Well done.

I'm repeatedly reading what you've experienced, that cutting carbohydrate and increasing meats and/ or animal fats can quite quickly reverse type 2 diabetes. It's a very inconvenient finding for the major food manufacturers......

Thanks,I'm surprised how quickly I lost weight and reversed the prediabetes,not type 2 as once you have that there's no reversal.I think the exercising is as important as the food,one doctor said that insulin is stored in the stomach lining and if you can reduce it you're partly there.
The amusing part of weight loss,initially, was that people were too scared to say anything in case I was ill.
The difficult bit will be maintaining the exercise and keeping the weight off.

 

[melted welly]

Healthiest and longest living are those on a traditional Mediterranean diet or a traditional Japanese diet .

I agree with @Derrick Hughes , sugar and lack of exercise / being overweight are killers . Plenty of veg/ legumes , lean meats and oily fish will see you well , as much as I like dairy it raises cholesterol , olive oil on your bread/toast is better.

The Mediterranean diet is a bit of a miff though. My wife was reading a paper which (forgive my vagueness) debunked the whole fish and olive oil diet because, the study which singled it out as being the pinnacle of healthy intake was written in the early 20th century and the chap who wrote it visited in winter or early spring, traditionally a lean time, so the population was surviving on preserved veg and fish. This was not typical of their total annual intake, rather a seasonal snapshot.

 

[DaveGrohl]

The Mediterranean diet is a bit of a miff though. My wife was reading a paper which (forgive my vagueness) debunked the whole fish and olive oil diet because, the study which singled it out as being the pinnacle of healthy intake was written in the early 20th century and the chap who wrote it visited in winter or early spring, traditionally a lean time, so the population was surviving on preserved veg and fish. This was not typical of their total annual intake, rather a seasonal snapshot.

And the Med diet varies a lot depending on which country you're in.

 

[Lincoln75]

The Mediterranean diet is a bit of a miff though. My wife was reading a paper which (forgive my vagueness) debunked the whole fish and olive oil diet because, the study which singled it out as being the pinnacle of healthy intake was written in the early 20th century and the chap who wrote it visited in winter or early spring, traditionally a lean time, so the population was surviving on preserved veg and fish. This was not typical of their total annual intake, rather a seasonal snapshot.

Its not a "miff" , there has been hundreds of academic studies into which diet gives the longest life expectancy and fewest ailments , the Mediterranean and certain Japanese diets come out top.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Thanks,I'm surprised how quickly I lost weight and reversed the prediabetes,not type 2 as once you have that there's no reversal.I think the exercising is as important as the food,one doctor said that insulin is stored in the stomach lining and if you can reduce it you're partly there.
The amusing part of weight loss,initially, was that people were too scared to say anything in case I was ill.
The difficult bit will be maintaining the exercise and keeping the weight off.

Type 2 can and is being reversed by an awful lot of people round the world. Bit more involved than reversing pre-diabetes though granted, but easily possible in most cases.

 

[texelburger]

Type 2 can and is being reversed by an awful lot of people round the world. Bit more involved than reversing pre-diabetes though granted, but easily possible in most cases.

OK,I was just going by what my GP said.

 

[Cowgirl]

My husband has been on a low carb diet (eating mainly meat and veg) for several years now and has almost reversed his diabetes without medication, although I fear he still has vascular damage. He was in hospital for a few days and received this dietary advice. The medics refuse to change their low fat mantra despite all the evidence against it. If my husband ate this his glucose would be sky high.

 

[DaveGrohl]

My husband has been on a low carb diet (eating mainly meat and veg) for several years now and has almost reversed his diabetes without medication, although I fear he still has vascular damage. He was in hospital for a few days and received this dietary advice. The medics refuse to change their low fat mantra despite all the evidence against it. If my husband ate this his glucose would be sky high.

Right there in black and white. Utterly depressing. Fortunately there are an increasing number of medics who have realised the nonsense that gets passed off as unarguable knowledge from above. Things will improve but pace will be glacial.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Right there in black and white. Utterly depressing. Fortunately there are an increasing number of medics who have realised the nonsense that gets passed off as unarguable knowledge from above. Things will improve but pace will be glacial.

May even take a class action to get it changed........

 

[Breakthru]

I was diagnosed with having prediabetes about 15 months ago.I decided to get fitter and lose weight so embarked on doing some exercises most days.I also changed my diet,slightly,by eating a little less carbohydrate but doubled my meat intake and carried on eating dairy products.My extra meat was in the form of lean chicken and ham,usually in a sandwich. I still ate my normal main meal which was the standard meat and two veg with all the trimmings.
I lost nearly 4 stones and have a six pack that a teenager would be proud of.I reversed my predicates. I'm 62 years of age.
What I'm trying to say is that I increased animal protein and fat consumption was roughly the same as before.My main diet change was wholemeal bread for white and extra lean meat for protein.It worked for me.
Also I don't stick to it rigidly, if I want a session with the lads I'll go.

Don't go too much on the "lean" meat bit. Forget the crap they talk about fat. Just control the carbs and be careful with too much ham especially if it's the stuff made in "bombs".

 

[Breakthru]

The Mediterranean diet is a bit of a miff though. My wife was reading a paper which (forgive my vagueness) debunked the whole fish and olive oil diet because, the study which singled it out as being the pinnacle of healthy intake was written in the early 20th century and the chap who wrote it visited in winter or early spring, traditionally a lean time, so the population was surviving on preserved veg and fish. This was not typical of their total annual intake, rather a seasonal snapshot.

The key to the Med diet is Olive oil. Your body can only process a fraction of the goodness in a tomato unless it has an olive oil dressing.

 

[Breakthru]

My husband has been on a low carb diet (eating mainly meat and veg) for several years now and has almost reversed his diabetes without medication, although I fear he still has vascular damage. He was in hospital for a few days and received this dietary advice. The medics refuse to change their low fat mantra despite all the evidence against it. If my husband ate this his glucose would be sky high.

How do you know when a politician is lying? their lips are moving. How do you know when a civil servant is talking and writing crap? It 99% of the time smells of crap!