ELMS: Parliamentary call for evidence

delilah

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https://www.nao.org.uk/report/the-environmental-land-management-scheme/


Report conclusions

Defra and its delivery partners have worked hard in challenging circumstances to design ELM within the planned timescales. However, important elements are not yet in place, creating risks to environmental outcomes and value for money. ELM is not yet underpinned by a strong set of objectives and Defra’s planning is too short‑term in its focus. Defra also has considerable work to do to ensure ELM is delivered in a cost-effective way including developing its approach to controlling fraud and error and to delivering cost savings.

Achieving the environmental outcomes from ELM depends on high levels of participation. Defra has improved its engagement with farmers, but it still has a lot to do to regain their trust. The late introduction of SFI2022 created additional pressures for Defra and its delivery partners and, to help manage these, Defra has since reduced its scope. Nevertheless, important risks remain and a successful launch of SFI2022 to tens of thousands of farmers will be critical to the ultimate delivery of the intended environmental outcomes.
 
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Dave645

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Arable Farmer
Location
N Lincs
Going to be a car crash :(
Very likley they note 38% of farmers would not have made a profit without sub yet they aim to cut sub before launching the new scheme in 2024 they hope to cut the Administration of the scheme down to 10% from its current 18% that’s from farmings £2.4 billion.
So in 2023 when they have cut massive amounts of sub from farmers they plan to have zero ways to give it back. . . .
 

melted welly

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Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
I still fail to see where the money is coming from to pay all of this.the country is near bankrupt after COVID anyway and public don’t want to see what they perceive as rich farmers getting money for doing very little
nick…
Because the environment and nature is being commoditised, so doing nothing, bizarrely, has a value in this brave new, weird, intangible world we’re living in. Not necessarily a financial commodity either, this scheme uses the environment as a political commodity.
Its all bollox really.
 

delilah

Member
I still fail to see where the money is coming from to pay all of this.the country is near bankrupt after COVID anyway and public don’t want to see what they perceive as rich farmers getting money for doing very little
nick…

It's £3 Billion a year, tops. What is the rural tourism economy worth ? How much does it cost to remove agricultural pollutants from drinking water ? If they get the design of ELMS right, then it will represent outstanding value for money for the public.

edit: Right on cue, just seen this in the sidebar on here:

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/collections/6730f10b64184200b171a57750890643?item=1
 
It's £3 Billion a year, tops. What is the rural tourism economy worth ? How much does it cost to remove agricultural pollutants from drinking water ? If they get the design of ELMS right, then it will represent outstanding value for money for the public.

First they have to sell it to landowners and by that, I don’t mean the likes of NT who want livestock numbers reduced and rewilding. Taking productive land out of food producing has a cost. Imports aren’t always going to be available, or cheap. As we have just discovered with gas.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
I think ELMS in its current form will have a perverse impact on UK agriculture which will be detrimental to all.
It wrongly validates and aids those who want to make land unproductive while not improving habitats for wildlife. This is compounded by the drive to plant trees in some dream that it helps counteract fossil fuel emissions.
By valuing farmland so low, it will create 2 main reactions.
It will drive intensification to increase returns to cover the lost revenue of BPS or,
It puts large farms in a very competitive situation to offer better value to use lands not put in ELMS so they they can achieve their own requirements.
I've already had a discussion where they foresee offering me more than ELMS to take slurry with no hassle, forms, claims or checks.
I've always been low input pasture but the future is looking greener!! :ROFLMAO:
 

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