Employing a driver. Rules and regs

[Dave W]

Just throwing a few ideas around.
One is to have someone part time on a self employed basis to do me a bit of driving.
It would be a 3.5t vehicle with 3.5t trailer. Vehicle will have tacho.

Question is what do I need in terms of operators license, cpc etc etc.

Obviously the correct insurance.

It wouldn't be haulage for hire or reward. Just moving my own purchased goods

 

[grainboy]

If your purchase are for resale,
Then that’s hire or reward.

 

[Dave W]

The goods will be for reasale obviously
I guess those questions also apply to me sat in the seat

 

[grainboy]

Yep, you are being rewarded, which ever way you look at it,
Unless you sell something at a loss, !

 

[Dave W]

Yep, you are being rewarded, which ever way you look at it,
Unless you sell something at a loss, !

How much did tacho cost in your pickup?

 

[grainboy]

£1100 plus vat

 

[unlacedgecko]

Just throwing a few ideas around.
One is to have someone part time on a self employed basis to do me a bit of driving.
It would be a 3.5t vehicle with 3.5t trailer. Vehicle will have tacho.

Question is what do I need in terms of operators license, cpc etc etc.

Obviously the correct insurance.

It wouldn't be haulage for hire or reward. Just moving my own purchased goods

You’ll need a restricted operators licence. Driver will count as a mobile worker and be bound by UK regs.

In terms of payload mpg I reckon you’d be better off with a 7.5ton van.

 

[Dave W]

You’ll need a restricted operators licence. Driver will count as a mobile worker and be bound by UK regs.

In terms of payload mpg I reckon you’d be better off with a 7.5ton van.

thanks.
7.5t not an option for now unfortunately

 

[Drillman]

Reading the title I thought you had gone big time and was needing a chauffeur

 

[Dave W]

Reading the title I thought you had gone big time and was needing a chauffeur

Nah. They don't call me @Nearly

 

[Drillman]

Nah. They don't call me @Nearly

 

[Nearly]

Reading the title I thought you had gone big time and was needing a chauffeur

Nah. They don't call me @Nearly

@TripleSix is an important member of the team and is an excellent mechanic which is an important skill when driving my fleet.

 

[TripleSix]

I'm not aware that any CPC is needed @Dave W
But I think you need an O license.

Your job is hire and reward because you're operating as part of a business.


If you're buying a new truck, consider something like an iveco daily, it'll carry a tonne on its back and tow 3.5

 

[powerontheland]

Operators license needed, unless you have a double cab pick up.

 

[Dave W]

Operators license needed, unless you have a double cab pick up.

Interesting. What's the difference? Would've thought both were commercial

 

[powerontheland]

Double cab is classed as a dual purpose vehicle. When I bought my defender I looked into it quite a bit, as I tow commercially for the local NH dealership. My circumstances may be a little bit different to yours as I am primarily a Forage merchant and Contractor, meaning I can operate under the 100km limit. I don’t need a tacho either .

 

[TripleSix]

Operators license needed, unless you have a double cab pick up.

I don't think that is a valid exemption.

Can you provide a reference?

 

[betweenthelines]

I suggest you google the regs-driver hour, O licence. Lots of incorrect info on here, better to go the the horse's mouth.

Under 7.5t I don't think you need an O licence,but with most van + trailer combinations you'd hardly be able to carry any weight.. Driver who passed car test after 1996 is limited to 3.5t max allowable wt,Before 96 7.5t limit for towing vehicle, trailer & load (depending on size of towing vehicle)

 

[TripleSix]

I suggest you google the regs-driver hour, O licence. Lots of incorrect info on here, better to go the the horse's mouth.

Under 7.5t I don't think you need a tacho or O licence,but with most van + trailer combinations you'd hardly be able to carry any weight

You're warning about misinformation yet you're spreading it!

For business use, as soon as you exceed 3500kgs you need a tacho and o license.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

don't bother employing anyone, just get a local lad to go collect it with his own trailer and pay a mileage rate plus £10 to load and same to unload,
fully tax deductable, and get rid if no good