Enorossi V rake

[fiat 9090]

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Anyone got one of these wheeled V rakes?

How do you do the end rigs and points if there isn't a baler following them round to make space?

How are they in heavy damp stemmy grass?

How well do they tow at speed, say for an hour on the road to go move damp straw away from the farm?

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have one it can rake 20 acres an hour in damp grass

 

[james ds]

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have one it can rake 20 acres an hour in damp grass

An hour a day will do you so.

 

[DrDunc]

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have one it can rake 20 acres an hour in damp grass

What's the technique in corners? Reading American forums this seems to be the trickiest bit with wheeled V rakes?

How is it in short leafy grass?

Basically, would you recommend it for in front of a baler? I've seen videos where going too slowly in what appeared to be long stemmy grass makes a poor row, but speeding up left a lovely square edged shape.

An hour a day will do you so.

Do you have a very small cock, or is just inverted right enough?

 

[james ds]

What's the technique in corners? Reading American forums this seems to be the trickiest bit with wheeled V rakes?

How is it in short leafy grass?

Basically, would you recommend it for in front of a baler? I've seen videos where going too slowly in what appeared to be long stemmy grass makes a poor row, but speeding up left a lovely square edged shape.





Do you have a very small cock, or is just inverted right enough?

What's your problem dunce

 

[Dave W]

Anyone got one of these wheeled V rakes?

How do you do the end rigs and points if there isn't a baler following them round to make space?

How are they in heavy damp stemmy grass?

How well do they tow at speed, say for an hour on the road to go move damp straw away from the farm?

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My friend has a batrake?? and absolutely loves it. Looked identical to that pictured.
I was curious/questioned all of the above regarding dragging stones up and corners etc but he says no problem. Admittedly mainly used on dryish haylage rather than wet silage
I can put you in touch with him if you like @DrDunc

 

[DrDunc]

My friend has a batrake?? and absolutely loves it. Looked identical to that pictured.
I was curious/questioned all of the above regarding dragging stones up and corners etc but he says no problem. Admittedly mainly used on dryish haylage rather than wet silage
I can put you in touch with him if you like @DrDunc

Yes please

 

[Dave W]

Yes please

Pm me tomorrow when I'll remember

 

[fiat 9090]

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have one it can rake 20 acres an hour in damp grass

a bit more than an hour we like to get 40 acres pickd in a day and 20 acres is the max but roughly you can go twice the speed it takes getting used to though

 

[fiat 9090]

Yes please

the jury is still out and ill know a lot more next year
i only bought the batrake near the end o the season and were only getting used to it , the pluses are cheaper faster and less to go wrong . minus's we found drier grass spread out lumped a bit and we found it fouled the last headland sward cos it was so long but we got used to it it is brilliant if you narrow it in and take 20 ft the wheels are small and should be on a double axle bogie i intend making one with a few changes

 

[Drillman]

How long have you had one, and is it only for hay?

Is it stable transporting at speed, or likely to shake itself to bits / fall over if cornered too fast?

Do you bale up the end rigs first to leave it clear for the ins and outs, or leave them until last and put up with a lumpy inner bout on the ends? I can't see how you do anything else with the length of the thing, unless there's some way of lifting, then dropping the front first like you ideally do with a plough?

Apologies for all the questions, but so far there hasn't been many positive reports from actual owners!

Just buy a McHale baler. They eat lumpy swaths no bother with enough power on the front like my TM155 has

 

[DrDunc]

Just buy a McHale baler. They eat lumpy swaths no bother with enough power on the front like my TM155 has

You haven't seen lumpy swaths all roped up until you've seen what my Krone can swallow, and it just needs the wee Deutz 6150.4 in eco gear

To be fair, the man on the rake has improved since the first few fields he rowed up for me.... Thank goodness

I guess the v rake will take a bit of fettling to get forward speed, angle, and width right to get a good swath, but then so does a "conventional" rake..... Hence knowing my Krone can bale lumpy ropes

Think I'll need to get a demo or at least see one working. At forward speeds up to 3 times that of a twin rotor, able to rake everything from hay to wet leaf grass, turn straw to dry it, and has bugger all to go wrong, they look too good not to investigate.

 

[Drillman]

You haven't seen lumpy swaths all roped up until you've seen what my Krone can swallow, and it just needs the wee Deutz 6150.4 in eco gear

To be fair, the man on the rake has improved since the first few fields he rowed up for me.... Thank goodness

I guess the v rake will take a bit of fettling to get forward speed, angle, and width right to get a good swath, but then so does a "conventional" rake..... Hence knowing my Krone can bale lumpy ropes

Think I'll need to get a demo or at least see one working. At forward speeds up to 3 times that of a twin rotor, able to rake everything from hay to wet leaf grass, turn straw to dry it, and has bugger all to go wrong, they look too good not to investigate.

Eco pto!

Your not aiming for max output in big swaths with knives in on hilly going then.

I suppose braking to a stop to net a bale at high speed isn’t advisable with a Deutz either

 

[Sharpy]

Eco pto!

Your not aiming for max output in big swaths with knives in on hilly going then.

I suppose braking to a stop to net a bale at high speed isn’t advisable with a Deutz either

To be fair the krone is a semi variable chamber baler, and won't take the same amount of power as a roller baler at full chamber.

 

[Drillman]

To be fair the krone is a semi variable chamber baler, and won't take the same amount of power as a roller baler at full chamber.

I’m running a McHale V660. To get max output in big swaths with knives in needs 150hp.

I’ve run it on a smaller tractor but in wet silage on hilly going forward speed drops dramatically

 

[fiat 9090]

You haven't seen lumpy swaths all roped up until you've seen what my Krone can swallow, and it just needs the wee Deutz 6150.4 in eco gear

To be fair, the man on the rake has improved since the first few fields he rowed up for me.... Thank goodness

I guess the v rake will take a bit of fettling to get forward speed, angle, and width right to get a good swath, but then so does a "conventional" rake..... Hence knowing my Krone can bale lumpy ropes

Think I'll need to get a demo or at least see one working. At forward speeds up to 3 times that of a twin rotor, able to rake everything from hay to wet leaf grass, turn straw to dry it, and has bugger all to go wrong, they look too good not to investigate.

i think its well worth looking into only half the price of a twin rotor

 

[DrDunc]

Eco pto!

Your not aiming for max output in big swaths with knives in on hilly going then.

I suppose braking to a stop to net a bale at high speed isn’t advisable with a Deutz either

Aye you're right the Krone does need full welly chopping silage on hills. However it's a v150 full variable chamber so doesn't kill the tractor like a roller baler, and it's definitely easier to drive than a v660. Baling straw on ground too steep for a square baler to pull up this year, it was in eco PTO and still doing over 16kph up hill despite its weight. I'll also tell you one day about how I know that the Krone makes heavier bales that don't sag compared to the McHale too

You're also right about braking to stop at high speed. I set a warning beep on the control box for when the bale is 10cm from set diameter. Let's me get ready to be held in the seat by the belt, otherwise the brakes puts your head too close to the windscreen

Only complaint I've had with the Krone has been the net wrap. At first it occasionally didn't spread the net the full width for about the first half turn of the bale. Bloody infuriating, but Krone sent out their man and explained how to adjust the net brakes, something the dealer really ought to have done, but hey ho.

Have you ever tried a Krone variable @Drillman ? Seriously, you will be impressed with them.

Now I just need to find out if the enorossi batwing rakes are as good as their publicity hype

 

[fiat 9090]

Aye you're right the Krone does need full welly chopping silage on hills. However it's a v150 full variable chamber so doesn't kill the tractor like a roller baler, and it's definitely easier to drive than a v660. Baling straw on ground too steep for a square baler to pull up this year, it was in eco PTO and still doing over 16kph up hill despite its weight. I'll also tell you one day about how I know that the Krone makes heavier bales that don't sag compared to the McHale too

You're also right about braking to stop at high speed. I set a warning beep on the control box for when the bale is 10cm from set diameter. Let's me get ready to be held in the seat by the belt, otherwise the brakes puts your head too close to the windscreen

Only complaint I've had with the Krone has been the net wrap. At first it occasionally didn't spread the net the full width for about the first half turn of the bale. Bloody infuriating, but Krone sent out their man and explained how to adjust the net brakes, something the dealer really ought to have done, but hey ho.

Have you ever tried a Krone variable @Drillman ? Seriously, you will be impressed with them.

Now I just need to find out if the enorossi batwing rakes are as good as their publicity hype

what publicity hype is there in the uk over here its all twin rotors but if your on a budget they are miles better than a single rotor and unless you are very lucky to get a farmer owned up in the years well minded twin rotor even tho i bought a batrake i wonder why they are not more popular they do all the raking in america and italy but i do know wet grass is not a problem are you raking 20 or 30

 

[Drillman]

Aye you're right the Krone does need full welly chopping silage on hills. However it's a v150 full variable chamber so doesn't kill the tractor like a roller baler, and it's definitely easier to drive than a v660. Baling straw on ground too steep for a square baler to pull up this year, it was in eco PTO and still doing over 16kph up hill despite its weight. I'll also tell you one day about how I know that the Krone makes heavier bales that don't sag compared to the McHale too

You're also right about braking to stop at high speed. I set a warning beep on the control box for when the bale is 10cm from set diameter. Let's me get ready to be held in the seat by the belt, otherwise the brakes puts your head too close to the windscreen

Only complaint I've had with the Krone has been the net wrap. At first it occasionally didn't spread the net the full width for about the first half turn of the bale. Bloody infuriating, but Krone sent out their man and explained how to adjust the net brakes, something the dealer really ought to have done, but hey ho.

Have you ever tried a Krone variable @Drillman ? Seriously, you will be impressed with them.

Now I just need to find out if the enorossi batwing rakes are as good as their publicity hype

Havent got saggy McHale bales here!

But then a lot of it’s down to set up. McHale is kicking out fantastic bales for us now I’ve sussed how to get the best from it.

Maybe when you tried one you weren’t able to get the best out of one.

Yes it takes a bit of driving but when your clearing 100 plus acres/straw a day you need power to push on.

As for krone vari chamber yeah there ok tried one but didn’t think it was owt special.

 

[marco]

what publicity hype is there in the uk over here its all twin rotors but if your on a budget they are miles better than a single rotor and unless you are very lucky to get a farmer owned up in the years well minded twin rotor even tho i bought a batrake i wonder why they are not more popular they do all the raking in america and italy but i do know wet grass is not a problem are you raking 20 or 30

Did it take much to get it set up?

 

[fiat 9090]

Did it take much to get it set up?

we hadn it set up prperly in the first job so it raked in dirt we then tensioned the springs under the arms and moved the drawbar two holes and it worked brilliant the arms are spring loaded as are each wheel . when you narrow in the v to take20 ft it doesnt cause roping and leaves the sward high and airy but because the v is narrowed it leaves the back wheels behind the pivot point widened and this left it a bit wide for our wagons the kuhn rake has a seperate adjustment for this . no bother in corners the headland gets a bit of getting used to