Entitlements in Scotland

[Alistair]

During the back end of 2016 I purchased a parcel of land in Scotland with the BPS entitlements. The previous owner arranged for his agent to complete the paperwork for the transfer of the entitlements to me. I am still waiting for the transfer unit in Stornaway to complete this and when I ring up I am told everything looks in order and that there is a software issue with Edinburgh.

Does the process of completing entitlement transfers in Scotland normally take this length and is there anything that can be done to speed up the process?

 

[bobajob]

Yes this sounds quite normal. We eventually got on to our mp who got onto Fergus Ewing's office and it got sorted in principle. I have heard of others doing the same.
We got the loan amount against the new entitlements, (which helped pay for them).
Formal transfer can't be done till they write the computer program........

 

[Top Tip.]

Welcome to the world of Scottish farming this is absolutely typical of the disaster which is the scot gov computer system.

 

[PSQ]

I phoned the department on Monday, as I had an SFP software issue.

I asked the nice man on the other end of the phone if it had anything to do with the Government 'ransome - ware' hack, but got the distinct impression that all of the hackers are too young to know how to hack the ZX Spectrums that ScotGov use for their AG BPS system...

 

[glasshouse]

been waiting 15 months for a transfer.

 

[Dry Rot]

I phoned the department on Monday, as I had an SFP software issue.

I asked the nice man on the other end of the phone if it had anything to do with the Government 'ransome - ware' hack, but got the distinct impression that all of the hackers are too young to know how to hack the ZX Spectrums that ScotGov use for their AG BPS system...

It might help your case if you learnt gaelic....

 

[Hilly]

It might help your case if you learnt gaelic....

Or move to England as alot are talking about doing, and two farmers i know have done just that, sighting "Scottish politics, and divided communities" as the reason.

 

[glasshouse]

Or move to England as alot are talking about doing, and two farmers i know have done just that, sighting "Scottish politics, and divided communities" as the reason.

Many more english coming north.
Our subsidy payments may be bad, but england is worse.
Same with politics

 

[Hilly]

Many more english coming north.
Our subsidy payments may be bad, but england is worse.
Same with politics

Yes, some of them will return, when we moved here alot did the rest have returned now.

 

[PSQ]

It might help your case if you learnt gaelic....

Ok, try this for size:

"Fergus cha do lorg a 'bhonn le do dhà làimh"

 

[Top Tip.]

Ok, try this for size:

"Fergus cha do lorg a 'bhonn le do dhà làimh"

Mhmm he might just be able too.

 

[HAM135]

During the back end of 2016 I purchased a parcel of land in Scotland with the BPS entitlements. The previous owner arranged for his agent to complete the paperwork for the transfer of the entitlements to me. I am still waiting for the transfer unit in Stornaway to complete this and when I ring up I am told everything looks in order and that there is a software issue with Edinburgh.

Does the process of completing entitlement transfers in Scotland normally take this length and is there anything that can be done to speed up the process?

In exactly the same position as yourself,it beggars belief,they tell us the software has not been written yet to do the transfer!!!!

 

[Highland Mule]

Bought bare entitlement April 2016, for putting on land without any. I'm assured that the system will catchup, but I've just been told I'll be paid for 2016 without those units.

 

[Alistair]

Yes this sounds quite normal. We eventually got on to our mp who got onto Fergus Ewing's office and it got sorted in principle. I have heard of others doing the same.
We got the loan amount against the new entitlements, (which helped pay for them).
Formal transfer can't be done till they write the computer program........

Thanks for that it's nice to know that I'm not the only one having problems. I think that my transfer has been agreed in principle but that doesn't help with this years BPS

 

[Dwg]

Has Scotland always had its own subsidy system?
My concern is that so much money has been spent to duplicate what we already had. £178 million seems a lot for a PDF form.

 

[Highland Mule]

Seem to have an unexplained payment to my bank from SIACS, for which there is nothing on the Rural Payments website. It appears to be £15.75 x the number of entitlements I bought, which might be their value (not got paperwork to hand). I have a hope that the transfers are being progressed....

 

[bobajob]

Seem to have an unexplained payment to my bank from SIACS, for which there is nothing on the Rural Payments website. It appears to be £15.75 x the number of entitlements I bought, which might be their value (not got paperwork to hand). I have a hope that the transfers are being progressed....

Not the LFA money?

Ours was paid in today

 

[Highland Mule]

I'm not sure. Where is that shown on the Rural Payments system? I only got last year's payment last Friday.

Edit: I don't think so - it's less than the minimum £385 for LFA.

 

[bazza3034]

In exactly the same position as yourself,it beggars belief,they tell us the software has not been written yet to do the transfer!!!!

And you guys want a referendum on independance lol

 

[PSQ]

And you guys want a referendum on independance lol

No, just the idiots that think William Wallace spoke with an Australian accent.