Exporting to Australia

[sheepfarmer]

Does anyone know if it possible to export livestock (sheep) and/or semen to Australia. So far, all inquires have not been positive. Sounds like we can (or at least could) import embryos and semen from these countries, but not the other way around (this is what my enquiries have suggested).

 

[Blaithin]

I don't believe Canada will import anything live or semen or embryos from you because of BSE and foot and mouth. If we won't, I can't see Australia doing it. They have much stricter quarantine and import than we do.

 

[Tim W]

Export regs change all the time---check out https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/515565/ehc-list.pdf to see if there is an export certificate available

I think you will find that semen to Australia is not covered at present
However exports to USA have recently been agreed but are not listed on this site

 

[sheepfarmer]

I don't believe Canada will import anything live or semen or embryos from you because of BSE and foot and mouth. If we won't, I can't see Australia doing it. They have much stricter quarantine and import than we do.

They can and they do in Canada.... its tough regs because of SBV - and it might not be viable cos of the costings that this adds up - but you definitely can export from UK to Canada 100% sure.

 

[andybk]

yes some restrictions have been recently lifted , but there are many hoops to jump through , and you really need a very good agent to handle everything . will only be for embryos , and semen . think aus needed QQ genotype not sure if thats changed yet . whatever it will be ££

 

[sheepfarmer]

Hi Andybk,

Would you happen to have the latest documents on this? Or where to get them from?

 

[andybk]

no sorry i dont have access , ours was handled by a third party who did all the work .

 

[easyram1]

This reply is a bit second hand but I do not think the old rules re exports to Australia have changed ie ram ( if semen) and ram and donor ewe ( if embryos0 have to QQ Scrapie Genotypes + be over 5 years old + have to be slaughtered and brains checked for Scrapie before semen and embs can go to Australia where there are further restrictions on the offspring.
Re exports to NZ there are meant to have been a relaxing of the rules but in spite of people assuming the new protocols would be in place before the end of 2015 discussions are still going on and the so called agreed protocol and paperwork is no closer to being put in place than last year.
I would suggest that the trials and tribulations of exporters trying to get this new paperwork in place would be a salutary warning to all the Brexiteers who suggest that new trade regs can soon be agreed for every commodity thought of by man. I would have thought that sheep semen and embryos were pretty straightforward but with both UK and NZ wanting to do a deal they still seem to be having enormous difficulties sorting it out so that new UK/NZ agreement could well have major implications for NZ to export to other countries

 

[JD-Kid]

i would say unless someone spends millons to sort the paper work and lab trials etc i would not be suprised if to get onto NZ it will be useing aussie as a breeding ground and only 2 gen stock inported

the sheep milking thing will make a change and will help speed things up

 

[andybk]

i would say unless someone spends millons to sort the paper work and lab trials etc i would not be suprised if to get onto NZ it will be useing aussie as a breeding ground and only 2 gen stock inported

the sheep milking thing will make a change and will help speed things up

Its in the pipeline now JD . I would say the people doing the work are well capable of seeing it through . a lot of work has already been done .

 

[Glt57]

Speak to Abi at AB Europe she will be able too give you more information on exports

 

[Global ovine]

The inter governmental negotiations for UK export of sheep and goat germplasm to NZ has been completed.
This definitely does not mean it will be easy (I have studied the protocol). Some of the hoops to go through will preclude many would-be marketers.

One current problem exists; as soon as the first European imports arrive in NZ, all sheep/goat germplasm and live breeding stock from NZ to Australia will cease immediately. Australia is NZ's largest market for these by far.

The majority of NZ interest in UK sheep genetics is for milking strains/breeds.

Negotiations with France and Canada are in the final stages.

There is talk that the IHS protocol being adopted by NZ may be the blueprint other countries will follow. However this requires months of inter governmental negotiations identifying disease risks, testing procedures, and the exporting countries authorities to carrying out the protocol for the importing country. Some countries may balk at this if it costs their vet staff months of time to negotiate and then carry out the protocol for a few hundred straws of semen per annum.

 

[JD-Kid]

The inter governmental negotiations for UK export of sheep and goat germplasm to NZ has been completed.
This definitely does not mean it will be easy (I have studied the protocol). Some of the hoops to go through will preclude many would-be marketers.

One current problem exists; as soon as the first European imports arrive in NZ, all sheep/goat germplasm and live breeding stock from NZ to Australia will cease immediately. Australia is NZ's largest market for these by far.

The majority of NZ interest in UK sheep genetics is for milking strains/breeds.

Negotiations with France and Canada are in the final stages.

There is talk that the IHS protocol being adopted by NZ may be the blueprint other countries will follow. However this requires months of inter governmental negotiations identifying disease risks, testing procedures, and the exporting countries authorities to carrying out the protocol for the importing country. Some countries may balk at this if it costs their vet staff months of time to negotiate and then carry out the protocol for a few hundred straws of semen per annum.

ummm not alot of merinos etc in the UK so don't know if the importing from Oz would stop for them but there would be impacts on some breeds

 

[NZDan]

The inter governmental negotiations for UK export of sheep and goat germplasm to NZ has been completed.
This definitely does not mean it will be easy (I have studied the protocol). Some of the hoops to go through will preclude many would-be marketers.

One current problem exists; as soon as the first European imports arrive in NZ, all sheep/goat germplasm and live breeding stock from NZ to Australia will cease immediately. Australia is NZ's largest market for these by far.

The majority of NZ interest in UK sheep genetics is for milking strains/breeds.

Negotiations with France and Canada are in the final stages.

There is talk that the IHS protocol being adopted by NZ may be the blueprint other countries will follow. However this requires months of inter governmental negotiations identifying disease risks, testing procedures, and the exporting countries authorities to carrying out the protocol for the importing country. Some countries may balk at this if it costs their vet staff months of time to negotiate and then carry out the protocol for a few hundred straws of semen per annum.

Has Australia not already imported sheep from the UK though?

 

[Global ovine]

Has Australia not already imported sheep from the UK though?

Yes, but this happened before the last FMD out break, Blue tongue, and Jaagsiekte (Spelling?). @easyram1 explained the Australian protocol in his earlier post on this thread.

 

[neilo]

They can and they do in Canada.... its tough regs because of SBV - and it might not be viable cos of the costings that this adds up - but you definitely can export from UK to Canada 100% sure.

Yes, we have semen sat in the tank awaiting shipment at the moment. Just done post-collection blood tests, as required, then fit to go.

USA still not opened up again though, after shutting the door when BTV hit. And the BREXIT proponents thing export deals can be sorted in weeks......

 

[neilo]

Its in the pipeline now JD . I would say the people doing the work are well capable of seeing it through . a lot of work has already been done .

+1

Semen and embryos are in the tank already. Just waiting on crossing the t's and dotting the i's I believe. Whether that will happen before this year's breeding season over there, is another matter.

 

[JD-Kid]

+1

Semen and embryos are in the tank already. Just waiting on crossing the t's and dotting the i's I believe. Whether that will happen before this year's breeding season over there, is another matter.

what year ?

 

[andybk]

+1

Semen and embryos are in the tank already. Just waiting on crossing the t's and dotting the i's I believe. Whether that will happen before this year's breeding season over there, is another matter.

Yes all go mid-end of may ,

 

[JD-Kid]

Yes all go mid-end of may ,

would be a bit late in some areas