- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Pretty sure all of us have an accident there we could relate to. Chainsaws, roof access, vehicles etc.
Farm safety
- Thread starter Robt
- Start date
Pretty sure all of us have an accident there we could relate to. Chainsaws, roof access, vehicles etc.
- Location
- Northumberlandia
stepping out a tractor backwards & totally misjudged the lower step, ended up with a really bad sprained ankle & swore blindly id never do that again & also wear far more supportive boots
both i have complied with religiously ever since, mind this was 25years ago, ive grown a little wiser since then
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
If only BareCo could design and sell such a guard at reasonable money......
As for grease nipples, they should all be on the outside these days imo. Far easier to access, so might actually see the end of a grease gun occasionally.
- Location
- Northumberlandia
Kuhn PH & Maschio i have both got grease points on the side of the UJ & guards never have to be pulled back its bloody brillIf only BareCo could design and sell such a guard at reasonable money......
As for grease nipples, they should all be on the outside these days imo. Far easier to access, so might actually see the end of a grease gun occasionally.
Headless chicken
Member
- Location
- West Wales
I’m not denying that we have an issue in ag but two things stick out for me.
money if we like to accept it or not we’re all being underpaid and it’s having an impact. The rest of the world works 40 hours a week lots of us work double that if not more.
If there was more money available then more safety equipment would then be able to be bought. 1k on a man cage or I’ll just jump up in the bucket?
secondly other work place accident figures only include the work place. ie because we live at work a lot of the figures get lumped together. If someone died in a car crash travelling to work then it’s not attributed to work place accidents. If someone died in a car crash towing cattle it would be a work place accident.
Slurry gas is a huge problem in Ireland it would seem and that’s an area that really must be focused on.
money if we like to accept it or not we’re all being underpaid and it’s having an impact. The rest of the world works 40 hours a week lots of us work double that if not more.
If there was more money available then more safety equipment would then be able to be bought. 1k on a man cage or I’ll just jump up in the bucket?
secondly other work place accident figures only include the work place. ie because we live at work a lot of the figures get lumped together. If someone died in a car crash travelling to work then it’s not attributed to work place accidents. If someone died in a car crash towing cattle it would be a work place accident.
Slurry gas is a huge problem in Ireland it would seem and that’s an area that really must be focused on.
kiwi pom
Member
- Location
- canterbury NZ
I don't agree with the lack of money argument. I don't see farmers rushing out to improve safety after a good year, on the other hand plenty of farming businesses spend a lot of time and money on safety. From their point of view they must get pi**ed off with those that don't spend having an unfair advantage.
I'm not sure about the car crash towing cattle being a workplace accident. If an employee was in a pickup that crashed on road it would be a road traffic accident not a workplace accident???
I agree about the slurry under shed tanks and slats are just flat out dangerous
kiwi pom
Member
- Location
- canterbury NZ
Quad bikes and other equipment rollovers are a massive problem here.
data.worksafe.govt.nz
Fatalities summary table | WorkSafe
The work-related deaths listed in this table are based on initial notifications to WorkSafe and provides preliminary information. Once the death has been investigated, more detailed information becomes available.
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dudders
Member
- Location
- East Sussex
Forestry and fishing seem to be suspiciously safe industries? All those fishermen going off to sea in all weathers, and thousands of guys working in and under trees with some pretty savage equipment, with not one killed in a whole year. Farming's clearly a dodgy place to be.
I think one reason so many older people are killed is that they are in more of a hurry than anyone else. As you get older, there seems to be less and less time to do the things you want to do. Sure, young guys drive tractors too fast down the road, but it's the general lack of time that makes the older person cut corners and ignore sensible safe procedure. "Got to get on."
It's also more of a male problem - we men tend to procrastinate, leave things to the last minute and then rush at them. Women allow more time, go at a sensible pace and have fewer crashes as a result.
So this is my genuine idea - slow down. Confucius he say: "He who hurries is in danger." Too right.
Headless chicken
Member
- Location
- West Wales
i agree and ofcourse were talking both ends of the spectrum but taking the middle of the road average farmer who constantly gets poor to average returns it just doesn’t allow for some things to be possible. More so extra staff than better facilities.
possinly a poor example re the cattle box but it demonstrates my point. Lots of the activities we do wouldn’t be work place accidents for others they’d be home accident or road accidents. Farmers also have to be so many different things. Plenty of home owners wouldn’t dream to touch electrics. Most of us would have a go just to keep things moving.
ollie989898
Member
That seat thing is dangerous, used to get it when leaning back to see pick up hitch, suddenly the tractor would go out of gear and roll however it liked.
ollie989898
Member
If children are going to be on farms, they need to be in the house/garden (and fenced in) or in the passenger seat. It's the kids wondering the farm that frighten me.
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
Where did you get that quote of mine from? Don’t remember typing it?
- Location
- Yorkshire
You didn't it was @Highland Mule don't know how I managed to make it your quote?
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
Good, I’m not that mad yet then? ?
ollie989898
Member
The slurry gas under slats and in confined spaces thing should be routinely taught to everyone at agricultural college and then fewer people would be prepared to enter confined spaces like that.
You still don't get it. I've been looking around for a decade for a cherry picker / scissor lift type vehicle. They are ridiculously expensive even S/H. I simply can't find £5-6k to buy one. Prices are relentlessly rising. Hiring in this part of the world isn't that clever.
It's a financial juggling act every year. Do I spend money on house repairs ? New windows for the holiday cottage ? Replace a worn out implement ? Fill a spare tank with C/H oil cos it's cheap ATM ?
Rightly, or wrongly the cherry picker is way down the list yet again.
To say money isn't an excuse is both flippant and ignorant.
The answer to your OP was nailed in post # 2. Like it or not, 21st century prices would cure 90% of health and safety and mental health issues in the farming community.
Goweresque
Member
- Location
- North Wilts
But it isn't just £1k on a man cage is it? The moment you make your telehandler into a man lifter you have to have it loler'd annually, probably higher insurance bracket too. So in fact the safety regulations actually work against people getting man cages, because it involves them in ongoing expense and paperwork. The H&S should ask themselves which is safer - people in man cages on telehandlers that aren't inspected or people in the buckets of telehandlers that aren't inspected. Because demanding inspections is actually putting people off getting the man cages.
Apart from which how many actual accidents have occurred when someone has fallen out of a telehandler bucket? I've been looking at the accident stats and cases for some years now and I can't remember such a case. So one has to conclude its not actually that dangerous. Certainly far less dangerous than getting into a pen with some cattle, if you look at the death stats. So if its illegal to get lifted up in a telehandler bucket, why isn't it illegal to be in the same space as large cattle?
In 2001/2002(?) I was working for a big contractor on a bb940 big baler, after weeks/months of working what I now know to be crazy hours I got out to climb underneath to re thread the string, I don’t know why I didn’t pull the brake on the fly wheel but I didn’t. I remember it clear as day as I was under and remembered I hadn’t done it which I always did then......I heard the knotter trip and just managed to move my head as the stuffer whooshed past my head! Frightened me tbh but just proves how easy I could have been a stastitic and I’m sure I’m not the only who’s done it?
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Was one last year:
● A 52-year-old self-employed person was killed when he fell out of an excavator bucket. He was helping his son to bring down beams as they dismantled a storage shed. He died from head injuries.
I don't think cages on telehandlers are all that good anyway. At full height my telehandler has to be right smack up against the building you're working on. You lose all forward reach at any useful height. No good for reaching across flower beds then....
I have a * friend * that repairs a lot of stone walls. At any one time there's 1/2 ton stone + backfill + barrow load of cement in the bucket. I've yet to see a cage that could accommodate this.
The only bucket accident I've heard of is someone test driving a Tele at a dealers yard, crowded/ tipped the bucket....and the pallet forks dropped out from a great height. Luckily, no one else nearby.
I have a * friend * that repairs a lot of stone walls. At any one time there's 1/2 ton stone + backfill + barrow load of cement in the bucket. I've yet to see a cage that could accommodate this.
The only bucket accident I've heard of is someone test driving a Tele at a dealers yard, crowded/ tipped the bucket....and the pallet forks dropped out from a great height. Luckily, no one else nearby.