Farmer Roy's Random Thoughts - I never said it was easy.

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
I've been reading this report, written by a kiwi, on the broken food system:

http://www.nuffieldinternational.org/live/Report/NZ/2017/nadine-porter

Very interesting and thought provoking.

"In the TFP 2017-18 Food and Beverage mega-trend report
(27) health and wellness featured at the top of consumer trends. UK supermarket retail giant Waitrose and other significant meat and vegetable suppliers into that market that the author interviewed have supported this conclusion.

The report found consumers were much more concerned with the nutritional content of their food and drink and are using smartphone technology, to establish the most nutrient dense foods on offer. A strong preference for all things natural was continuing to emerge, according to report findings, with consumers wanting to ‘eat in line with nature, and eat less products that have less intervention and less refinement
"

And on the other hand.......

"A 2016 ASDA survey (32) of children in the United Kingdom, revealed how far the knowledge gap is between those that produce our food and those that consume it, with 41 per cent not knowing that eggs came from chicken, and 15 per cent of children believing cucumbers are grown on trees. One in 20 children believed avocados grew on trees and nearly a quarter of those surveyed believed turkey, chicken wings and sirloin steak come from a pig"

And something else to think about:

Fast food is often tied to the word ‘processed’ and this again may lead to a future opportunity for New Zealand’s red meat as a slow cooking joint may be perceived as more ‘natural’ than the plethora of convenient packaged options available now.

However this will require a change in terminology. Understanding that 'processed' or 'processing' has a perception

of being a synthetic food process that alters the raw product will mean that the agri-industry should shift away from talking about 'meat processing' or 'meat processors' and instead consider new terminology that does not negatively impact consumer perceptions.
 

hendrebc

Member
Livestock Farmer
I've been reading this report, written by a kiwi, on the broken food system:

http://www.nuffieldinternational.org/live/Report/NZ/2017/nadine-porter

Very interesting and thought provoking.

"In the TFP 2017-18 Food and Beverage mega-trend report
(27) health and wellness featured at the top of consumer trends. UK supermarket retail giant Waitrose and other significant meat and vegetable suppliers into that market that the author interviewed have supported this conclusion.

The report found consumers were much more concerned with the nutritional content of their food and drink and are using smartphone technology, to establish the most nutrient dense foods on offer. A strong preference for all things natural was continuing to emerge, according to report findings, with consumers wanting to ‘eat in line with nature, and eat less products that have less intervention and less refinement
"

And on the other hand.......

"A 2016 ASDA survey (32) of children in the United Kingdom, revealed how far the knowledge gap is between those that produce our food and those that consume it, with 41 per cent not knowing that eggs came from chicken, and 15 per cent of children believing cucumbers are grown on trees. One in 20 children believed avocados grew on trees and nearly a quarter of those surveyed believed turkey, chicken wings and sirloin steak come from a pig"

And something else to think about:

Fast food is often tied to the word ‘processed’ and this again may lead to a future opportunity for New Zealand’s red meat as a slow cooking joint may be perceived as more ‘natural’ than the plethora of convenient packaged options available now.

However this will require a change in terminology. Understanding that 'processed' or 'processing' has a perception

of being a synthetic food process that alters the raw product will mean that the agri-industry should shift away from talking about 'meat processing' or 'meat processors' and instead consider new terminology that does not negatively impact consumer perceptions.
To be fair I don't know how avocados are grown either. I would have guessed on a tree because of the stone in the middle like a plum or something. But I don't know!
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
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Palm Oil
Its cheap, that's why

personally, I don't believe there is such a thing as "sustainable" palm oil.
but then, I suppose it could be argued that there is no such thing as sustainable agriculture, or a sustainable modern western society either . . .

Its a bit like the argument about selling "old" ivory from before when it was banned. No, selling ANY ivory just creates a demand for more & the continuation of poaching

Vast areas of deforestation are still happening for palm oil production. The only way to prevent that is boycotting ALL palm oil products & reducing demand

If you don't eat processed foods or slather yourself in creams, shampoos etc, it is relatively easy to avoid.

A number of years ago I met a fellow who managed an "independent" ice cream factory in South Australia. Their big point of difference from the big players like Streets & Pauls, apart from being local to SA, was the fact they didn't use palm oil. When I met him, he was having major issues because they lost the ice cream concessions at Adelaide Zoo to Streets ( who still used palm oil at that time ) because Streets came in slightly cheaper . . .

A friend of mine is a Primate Keeper at New Orleans Zoo, so she is rather passionately anti palm oil
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
bio diesel & ethanol
mandated by many western governments, generally after intense lobbying from industries with a vested interest ( the US farm lobby, for example ? ). I doubt Greenpeace, WWF or others would support such ideas . . .
applauded by farmers for increased demand of their products
welcomed to some extent by the public as a fuzzy feel good measure, or at least helps justify their current habits & reliance on techno / industrial solutions to carry on as normal


but



massive environmental repercussions, from destruction of rainforests to produce oil, to vast areas of GM corn for ethanol as examples
and it is still releasing carbon into the atmosphere

without even mentioning the ethical / moral / social issues . . .
 

Sharpy

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Livestock Farmer
and the demand exploded when the politicians decided to mandate the inclusion of biodiesel in EU mineral diesel sales "to help the environment". Palm Oil was the cheapest base stock that the big oil companies could find causing a huge jump in demand. :banghead:
Suffering f**k! Another ill thought out idea with horrific side effects!
 

waterbuffalofarmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Penzance
Talking on cheap oil for machinery... I remember reading a book about Calabria and it's olive oil production. Apparently the olives were so intense and rancid that their only use during second world war was for oiling the machinery, especially in the western world. There then became a big demand for it, but then there was a cheaper alternative found and suddenly that part of the country was denuded from income. Couldn't it be a matter of time before mankind developes a new oil, other than palm oil, and destroys another part of the world and it's wildlife? :(
 
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CornishTone

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BASIS
Location
Cornwall
Just think treacle=mollasses ;) :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Treacle = syrup. Molasses = well, molasses.

Thunder and Lightning = clotted cream and treacle (syrup) on a bread roll, or “Split”. Very healthy and low cholesterol! :hungry: :hungry:

There was a high demand for Treacle in Cornwall, to go with all the cream being squeezed out of the cows. Hence all the Treacle mines and cow squeezing plants.
 

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