Farmers "Demand" a universal basic income

[Chris F]

Have sky news on in the office and heard this being discussed. Have there been threads about this already?

Now, at least 100 farmers have signed up to a new campaign group, BI4Farmers, to ask for a universal basic income (UBI) for all farmers in Britain.

Full article here: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/apr/04/british-farmers-want-basic-income-to-cope-with-post-brexit-struggles#:~:text=Now, at least 100 farmers,risk going out of business.

Interesting concept, but the interviewer immediately asked that if the process are farming was to be de-risked, then surely the upside should also be capped. Which is a worrying though - as farms don;t just make money from growing food.

“A basic income for farmers would guarantee an adequate income, improving access to time off and reasonable working hours and making entering a career in farming affordable for new entrants.”

 

[Tubbylew]

Maybe post this in the "farmers and universal credit" thread and see what response it gets.

 

[Swarfmonkey]

I'll be willing to bet that they've really stretched the definition of "farmer" in order to claim that >100 have signed up.

It took less than 30 seconds to find out that it was started by one Joanna Poulton "a keen activist with interest in social justice and climate justice" (to use her own words) who then roped in a left wing think tank called Autonomy and a bunch of parasites who go by the name of The Basic Income Conversation, and is mostly made up of "food rights activists, and a few academics".

That should tell you a thing or two about their real motivations.

 

[Chris F]

Maybe post this in the "farmers and universal credit" thread and see what response it gets.

Have been reading that thread - which made me turn my head and listen to this on Sky News.

 

[Tubbylew]

Have been reading that thread - which made me turn my head and listen to this on Sky News.

Yeah, that thread's got a bit "heavy" for me so I'm keeping out of it.

 

[spin cycle]

1/ get off our backs with regulation
2/imports to match our standards
3/scrap farm assurance

all I want

 

[steveR]

1/ get off our backs with regulation
2/imports to match our standards
3/scrap farm assurance

all I want

You have my Vote anyway....

 

[Chris F]

Not going down well with the public - just had this email:

 

[Henarar]

Not going down well with the public - just had this email:

Worth not getting anything and leaving the eu just to see that

 

[Welderloon]

Not going down well with the public - just had this email:

Wonder if he's the ferrymaster at the Calais immigration camp

 

[robs1]

Not going down well with the public - just had this email:

Has he/she not noticed European farmers rioting recently ?

 

[warksfarmer]

Not going down well with the public - just had this email:

Whoever that is, is retarded. The EU are dumping on european farmers far harder than over here. I'm glad were out of the EU and I'd vote exactly the same today as I did a few years ago. Voting out of the EU is the best thing farmers have done for 50 years.

 

[Lamb's Orchard]

It wouldn't be a 'UNIVERSAL basic income' if it's only for farmers though.

 

[JP1]

Not going down well with the public - just had this email:

Actually I'm not surprised . The general perception (including James O'Brien) is that we as farmers all voted Brexit

 

[Henarar]

Actually I'm not surprised

Nor am I

 

[delilah]

Has been Green Party policy for yonks. Reason enough for farmers to run a mile.

 

[J 1177]

Not going down well with the public - just had this email:

Minette?

 

[Still Farming]

@Bald Rick 3 threads on UC, basic payment etc now

 

[glasshouse]

Actually I'm not surprised . The general perception (including James O'Brien) is that we as farmers all voted Brexit

English farmers did
I didnt vote as i was struck off register after eviction from my farm tenancy caused by ridiculous eu subsidy rules that allowed the landlord to hoof me out and claim bps himself
On the day i would voted for brexit for the above reasons

 

[ridger]

Yeah, that thread's got a bit "heavy" for me so I'm keeping out of it.

Me too