Farmers fresh abattoir animal welfare breaches

Smith31

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Maybe someone could put a link up from the BBC website showing the animal welfare breaches at this abattoir:(. Disgusting

The FSA and their management are not fit for purpose
 
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Smith31

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Any breaches of Animal welfare and the plant needs to be shut down, no ifs or buts. It is incidents like these that promote veganism not the pink haired protesters.

We don't breed livestock for it to be abused, makes my blood boil.

All those who sell dead weight bear in mind these carcasses will be bruised, so trimmed before inspection, so farmers will be paying the price via weight loss.
 
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Cleveland
Any breaches of Animal welfare and the plant needs to be shut down, no ifs or buts. It is incidents like these that promote veganism not the pink haired protesters.

We don't breed livestock for it to be abused, makes my blood boil.
Absolute disgusting...the owners must be brain dead allowing this to be going on...say what you want about the big main abattoirs there’s never any animal abuse going on and all on camera
 

essexpete

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Location
Essex
It does not help the sustainable (over used I know) meat cause to state the obvious. Is there scope for the set up of small farmer coop abattoirs? Perhaps just to expensive?
 

Smith31

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Absolute disgusting...the owners must be brain dead allowing this to be going on...say what you want about the big main abattoirs there’s never any animal abuse going on and all on camera

Dunbia were fine £266,000 earlier this year for not splitting 2 lambs which had teeth up. Will be interesting to see what kind of fines this far more serious incident brings.The bad publicity will cost the red meat industry millions. So much for England having the best animal welfare standards in the world.
 
Location
Cleveland
Dunbia were fine £266,000 earlier this year for not splitting 2 lambs which had teeth up. Will be interesting to see what kind of fines this far more serious incident brings.The bad publicity will cost the red meat industry millions. So much for England having the best animal welfare standards in the world.
It’s time these abattoirs were nearly all robotic so humans didn’t have to touch them
 

pgk

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Livestock Farmer
Contrasts with their kenilworth site where I have always seen the best of animal handling. Never been deducted for bruises at kenilworth. They haven't owned Welsh site too long, looks like they need to adopt their warwickshire handling practices.
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
I thought this statement in the Daily Mail to be alarming.
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A government report in 2016 dismissed it as a requirement, claiming there was 'simply not sufficient basis on which to make CCTV a mandatory requirement'.
They concluded that there were already 'a number of controls in place' which would prevent animal suffering, and as many farms were already members of assurance schemes, such as Red Tractor and Freedom Foods, the CCTV was not necessary.
 
We have sold in the live auction to them many times. Don’t know if it’s the same slaughterhouse though I think it isn’t. After saying that no excuse for the staff. Also what a bad set up. No funnelling system that is fit for purpose. The man filling the conveyor shouldn’t have had to read the tags. Even a couple of hurdles to pull around and a fastener of some description would have helped and saved fraustration. The conveyor would have worked better on the same level rather than raising a floor level. And the stunning end looked poor for restraining and for the second animal.
But what do I know
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
I don't know why they don't have live CCTV in these places with the feed broadcast to the web so anyone can view it any time of day, 24/7. Soon put a stop to this kind of behavior and the public, farmers and other stakeholders would have utter faith in these operations.

Well for a start that would shut down most of these small abattoirs as it would soon be concluded that they would have to massively upgrade their plant, which they probably cant afford and of course nobody would want to work there, if every move was analysed and criticised by joe public. This would result in many less stock buyers.
Secondly its a very small step from there to putting cameras in lambing sheds, beef sheds, milking parlours and on farm livestock handling facilities.
Everyone ok with that?

Its a sh*t job done by people that probably don't have a lot of choices. Who wants to have a job killing animals every day?
This stuff's going to happen from time to time. Feel free to swap with them any time you want.
 
Well for a start that would shut down most of these small abattoirs as it would soon be concluded that they would have to massively upgrade their plant, which they probably cant afford and of course nobody would want to work there, if every move was analysed and criticised by joe public. This would result in many less stock buyers.
Secondly its a very small step from there to putting cameras in lambing sheds, beef sheds, milking parlours and on farm livestock handling facilities.
Everyone ok with that?

Its a sh*t job done by people that probably don't have a lot of choices. Who wants to have a job killing animals every day?
This stuff's going to happen from time to time. Feel free to swap with them any time you want.
I’ve said from the beginning that maybe most folks wouldn’t appreciate watching animals being slaughtered.
 
Well for a start that would shut down most of these small abattoirs as it would soon be concluded that they would have to massively upgrade their plant, which they probably cant afford and of course nobody would want to work there, if every move was analysed and criticised by joe public. This would result in many less stock buyers.
Secondly its a very small step from there to putting cameras in lambing sheds, beef sheds, milking parlours and on farm livestock handling facilities.
Everyone ok with that?

Its a sh*t job done by people that probably don't have a lot of choices. Who wants to have a job killing animals every day?
This stuff's going to happen from time to time. Feel free to swap with them any time you want.

There are youtube channels already showing animal slaughter, housing or transport actually. I see one Australian company put their CCTV footage of cattle on board their transport ship in panoramic vision they were rightly proud of the first rate conditions aboard that ship.

I know farms where they would have zero reason to hide anything.
 

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