Farming strike

[Huno]

How do you all expect solidarity when UK farmers are made up of English,Welsh ,Scots and the N Irish .

UK.com new brand might help??

 

[Flatlander]

How do you all expect solidarity when UK farmers are made up of English,Welsh ,Scots and the N Irish .

We share a common bond. Ever go to a party hosted by city folks and meet a farmer. Instant common interests

 

[lloyd]

We share a common bond. Ever go to a party hosted by city folks and meet a farmer. Instant common interests

Good to know they will all be cheering England on in the football tonight.

 

[Chae1]

Could we have a TFF strike?


Nobody posts for a day?

 

[Bald Rick]

Could we have a TFF strike?


Nobody posts for a day?

I could ban you all …..

 

[Fake it ‘til you make it]

Is there a clue in you user name... is it fake meat...

Real meat

 

[Fake it ‘til you make it]

is it not the whole point of public forums to elaborate?

Members are free to contribute, elaborate and/ or just read, as they see fit. Some may wish to share more than others, for a variety of reasons

 

[Hilly]

Could we have a TFF strike?


Nobody posts for a day?

Why ? What do you want ?

 

[Hilly]

Could we have a TFF strike?


Nobody posts for a day?

You could strike and call is all scabs ?

 

[Chae1]

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[Hilly]

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You take our money but cant even cheer on their football team bad craic

 

[lloyd]

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Thats it i'm off to pour the Scotch down the sink .
No more high priced malting contracts for you.

 

[kiwi pom]

Thing is with strikes, you have to say, specifically, what it is that you want from your employer, and be prepared to stay on strike until you get what you want. What is it, specifically, that you want ?

Exactly

Yes true. Fair stock price that covers breeding/wintering cost and not to rely on bps payments to break even

Haven't read the rest of the thread, so you might have answered, what is a fair price? Everyone's costs are different, your neighbour make take advantage of the fact you're on strike and sell stock because they are offered what they think is a fair price.
Employees strike because they are all in the same boat. Farmers are all competing against each other.

 

[Ploughmaster]

Things will get better when labour get in, just hold tight

I wish that I could share your optimism

.... Social media campaigns for example need to be targeted and monitored. ....

and paid for

Reminds me of a tale my Father told of a meeting held by the Lincolnshire branch of the NFU back in the 1960s when there was to be a week long campaign promoting Danish Bacon to UK consumers. Obviously, British pig producers were concerned and were demanding a response to it. Father recalled that Newton Loynes (the then County Secretary of the Lincolnshire branch of the NFU) suggested that a van be hired and be applied with slogans promoting British bacon and have it ply up and down Lincoln High Street all that week.

The pig producers at the meeting all thought this was a jolly good idea and that the NFU should get on and get it organised. Loynes then raised the issue of hiring the van, providing a driver and getting the posters printed to stick to it and suggested that those there present could make a small monetary contribution towards the cost. Almost to a man, the pig men immediately went cool on the idea and it never happened - the Danish Bacon Co had the week all to themselves.

All because skinflint farmers always seem to want other people to act not only on their behalf, but for someone else to pay for it as well.

Doubt if the reaction would be any different nowadays?

Yes governments not the eu to blame this time and well that will be good for other 'member states 'to slip stuff in there to full fill the short fall.. with 'minimum hassle' .. ... oh hang on a minute

I was under the impression that the current proposals (in the Netherlands in particular), are a rather draconian and over-reaching response to EU imposed rules relating to climate change. Am I wrong?

well a sheep meat producer that 'voted out' mustn't complain now because he voted to spoil future Export marketing of lamb ,the spoiling of years of work that had been done establishing and consolidating Export markets on the 'Continent' .

I am pretty certain that I read a report not long ago that stated that UK export of sheepmeat to the EU had returned to pre-Brexit levels.

The same report showed imports of sheepmeat from Ireland to the UK had also reached record levels. There is a conclusion to be drawn there somewhere I think?

 

[tractorsandcows]

Our industry would probably have to copy the French example to get noticed.

This is the best statement on this thread. However our unions and most of the members of our industry will not be prepared to go down this route
And then complain about bad prices red protection racket etc
As an industry would we be better to die on our feet than the death of a thousand cuts we have been suffering for the last 30 years?

 

[Bury the Trash]

I was under the impression that the current proposals (in the Netherlands in particular), are a rather draconian and over-reaching response to EU imposed rules relating to climate change. Am I wrong?

Exactly, cant blame the EU for that , same as our lot making admin and dishing out of subsidy money so pedantic and overengineered. when in other EU Countries it was much more streamlined and less wastefull on admin side, less complex for farmers claiming.

 

[Bury the Trash]

I am pretty certain that I read a report not long ago that stated that UK export of sheepmeat to the EU had returned to pre-Brexit levels.

theyve (France at least ) have had to haggle harder only because of shortfall in what they need to buy, becasue their other suppliers (of as one but the best example ) which NZ is the highest number one, have not sent so there much because for one reason they have been sending more to China.

 

[Bury the Trash]

The same report showed imports of sheepmeat from Ireland to the UK had also reached record levels. There is a conclusion to be drawn there somewhere I think?

someone else needs to comment with more knowledge than me on that one but for perspective reasons you probably need to be aware that overall uk lamb kill numbers have been declining /down for a few years now for one reason and another.

phew, posting madness I need a beer and chill before bed now

 

[Ploughmaster]

Exactly, cant blame the EU for that

In what way - if not for the EU edict, it wouldn't be happening at all.

 

[Grass And Grain]

I'm not certain of how effective going "on strike" would be. However, I would get organised into negotiating groups. One group of all the farmers who supply a processor. Then I'd negotiate.

Rather than waiting for processor to tell us what they're paying, I'd name our selling price.