Fat hen in wholecrop SB

[WRXppp]

You people drive me insane!!!

A quick whiff and the crop would be weed free and the clover intact.

Which monkey is selling you this seed: do the job right or dont do it.

Its cost you over £100 to get the seed on the deck and put muck or nurrient to it but farmer logic ill save ten quid and grow salad as well.

Oh yes far hen is a great forage crop says lentilist neil. Its a fudging annual once you mow it off you will have fudging bare patches growing jack.

Give me strength.

Just got the chem to spray the low input spring barley and undersown, grass and white clover, spring barley and all that is going on is Eagle, same as last year, I thought it would clean out the clover but no it all came through and did a great job, ours is at the same stage as the op’s pic.

 

[Yale]

You people drive me insane!!!

A quick whiff and the crop would be weed free and the clover intact.

Which monkey is selling you this seed: do the job right or dont do it.

Its cost you over £100 to get the seed on the deck and put muck or nurrient to it but farmer logic ill save ten quid and grow salad as well.

Oh yes far hen is a great forage crop says lentilist neil. Its a fudging annual once you mow it off you will have fudging bare patches growing jack.

Give me strength.

Ha,ha,lentilist @neilo ,I’m sure you’ve been called a lot of things but never that......

 

[Cows 'n grass]

You people drive me insane!!!

A quick whiff and the crop would be weed free and the clover intact.


Which monkey is selling you this seed: do the job right or dont do it.

Its cost you over £100 to get the seed on the deck and put muck or nurrient to it but farmer logic ill save ten quid and grow salad as well.

Oh yes far hen is a great forage crop says lentilist neil. Its a fudging annual once you mow it off you will have fudging bare patches growing jack.

Give me strength.

Using?


Normally I'd just go compitox but that will take out the clover.

 

[ollie989898]

Just got the chem to spray the low input spring barley and undersown, grass and white clover, spring barley and all that is going on is Eagle, same as last year, I thought it would clean out the clover but no it all came through and did a great job, ours is at the same stage as the op’s pic.

Eagle has the same active as squire ultra, clover is tolerant of it. To be honest if all you had was fat hen plain spruce would be enough.

 

[WRXppp]

Eagle has the same active as squire ultra, clover is tolerant of it. To be honest if all you had was fat hen plain spruce would be enough.

Eagle is the best on my limited list of herbicides due to being ELS/HLS low input spring cereal, have to keep NE happy!

 

[ollie989898]

Eagle is the best on my limited list of herbicides due to being ELS/HLS low input spring cereal, have to keep NE happy!

Yes its an arable version of a product we use in grassleys called squire ultra.

 

[TomB]

Using?


Normally I'd just go compitox but that will take out the clover.

3 litres/ha of 24db. It’s pretty limp but the only thing that will leave the clover. If the weeds are smallish you’ll be ok.

 

[neilo]

You people drive me insane!!!

A quick whiff and the crop would be weed free and the clover intact.

Which monkey is selling you this seed: do the job right or dont do it.

Its cost you over £100 to get the seed on the deck and put muck or nurrient to it but farmer logic ill save ten quid and grow salad as well.

Oh yes far hen is a great forage crop says lentilist neil. Its a fudging annual once you mow it off you will have fudging bare patches growing jack.

Give me strength.

Hey man. I have always controlled it by a sniff of Spruce/topping/grazing with sheep (as all new leys should get, it controls chickweed too). I was merely pointing out the fact that it is/was a forage crop.

Maybe we’ll all be planting it as an annual forage crop, once some enterprising fella works out how to market it as such? ‘AberSmother’ anyone?

 

[yellowbelly]

Maybe we’ll all be planting it as an annual forage crop, once some enterprising fella works out how to market it as such? ‘AberSmother’ anyone?

Not enough dosh in the seed sales for those big plant breeding guys when 1 measly plant produces about 3 trillion seeds
I could grow enough seed here to drill three parts of Europe

 

[neilo]

Not enough dosh in the seed sales for those big plant breeding guys when 1 measly plant produces about 3 trillion seeds
I could grow enough seed here to drill three parts of Europe View attachment 679066

My reference to the bales that analysed exceedingly well for my neighbour, was more a reference to it’s potential value.
Given our/your ability to grow a cracking crop of fat hen, just by scratching a field over and shutting the gate, maybe there is an opportunity to bale it in late May/early June, then sow whatever we were originally wanting to after?

Just thinking outside the box.

 

[ollie989898]

Hey man. I have always controlled it by a sniff of Spruce/topping/grazing with sheep (as all new leys should get, it controls chickweed too). I was merely pointing out the fact that it is/was a forage crop.

Maybe we’ll all be planting it as an annual forage crop, once some enterprising fella works out how to market it as such? ‘AberSmother’ anyone?

No amount of spruce will control chickweed. MCPA and 2,4D have the same problem.

 

[neilo]

No amount of spruce will control chickweed. MCPA and 2,4D have the same problem.

Agreed. I was referring to the sheep grazing, as not recommended by most agronomists selling chems for living.

 

[ollie989898]

Agreed. I was referring to the sheep grazing, as not recommended by most agronomists selling chems for living.

Ive told people to graze leys with sheep more times than they can count.

They also, do not control chickweed.

 

[neilo]

Ive told people to graze leys with sheep more times than they can count.

They also, do not control chickweed.

OK. I, and most other people that run sheep, obviously have particularly gifted animals.
I’ve never in my life sprayed a ley to control chickweed.

 

[ollie989898]

OK. I, and most other people that run sheep, obviously have particularly gifted animals.
I’ve never in my life sprayed a ley to control chickweed.

As I have explained before, the radon gas in your area kills it.

Its way too late to control chickweed if its that big a sheep can eat it.

 

[unlacedgecko]

As I have explained before, the radon gas in your area kills it.

Its way too late to control chickweed if its that big a sheep can eat it.

I've have good results grazing chickweed infested dairy leys.

 

[ollie989898]

I've have good results grazing chickweed infested dairy leys.

As I keep saying, grazing it 3 months later when its big enough to graze is too late. The damage is half done.

Your objective is to colonise every square inch with grass plants or your desired species. This does not happen if you let frying pans of chickweed turn into dustbin lids.

Way too late.

Leave gaps in a ley and weed species will be along like the number 4 and 5 and 6 buses.

 

[neilo]

As I keep saying, grazing it 3 months later when its big enough to graze is too late. The damage is half done.

Your objective is to colonise every square inch with grass plants or your desired species. This does not happen if you let frying pans of chickweed turn into dustbin lids.

Way too late.

Leave gaps in a ley and weed species will be along like the number 4 and 5 and 6 buses.

Why would you wait 3 months to graze it? We’ve always mob grazed with sheep (well before ‘mob grazed’ was a fashionable term) as soon as the grass was up and rooted well enough to stand nibbling off. The sheeps’ feet do a great job of firming, as well as removing a lot of blw’s effectively.

 

[ollie989898]

Why would you wait 3 months to graze it? We’ve always mob grazed with sheep (well before ‘mob grazed’ was a fashionable term) as soon as the grass was up and rooted well enough to stand nibbling off. The sheeps’ feet do a great job of firming, as well as removing a lot of blw’s effectively.

Too late. I think you misunderstand why I bother spraying new leys. Its not for cosmetic reasons.

Graze docks all you like. Wont stop them. Spraying leys long before they are big enough to be grazed.

 

[unlacedgecko]

Too late. I think you misunderstand why I bother spraying new leys. Its not for cosmetic reasons.

Graze docks all you like. Wont stop them. Spraying leys long before they are big enough to be grazed.

How do you spray a ley in Dec?