Feed rate in at higher prices?

[pappuller]

So despite the overwhelming opinion to be to continue at low feed rates I think I'm going to turn the feeders up next week.

I'm not going to suddenly start neglecting grassland management but every extra litre is 45ppl from a 25p kg of cake. If I get just 1:1 and feed 2 extra kilos I'll be £200/day better off for zero effort.

If there's not a reasonable response in a fortnight I'll turn it back down again.

I just like the 45ppl bit [emoji7]

 

[som farmer]

we clicked in 32.89 for may, but 45 would be heaps better.

 

[upnortheast]

Grass is usually 50-60% water though.

& can be upto 90% water on a wet shitey day
which is why there are housed herds in places like Ayrshire

 

[Helpinghand]

i have a question for you all. If increasing Cake is so expensive and you say it depresses intakes of forage, why dont you buffer feed with brewers grains added into the mix which are known to boost intakes and i believe they are around £45/tn = approx £180 per ton of DM against all your compounds which will be all near or above £300 per ton of DM.

you can replace 1kg of cake with 3.5 kg of brewers and everyone knows you'll get your money back in milk from them.

 

[Beef farmer]

i have a question for you all. If increasing Cake is so expensive and you say it depresses intakes of forage, why dont you buffer feed with brewers grains added into the mix which are known to boost intakes and i believe they are around £45/tn = approx £180 per ton of DM against all your compounds which will be all near or above £300 per ton of DM.

you can replace 1kg of cake with 3.5 kg of brewers and everyone knows you'll get your money back in milk from them.

Brewers grains slip through parlour feeders?

 

[Helpinghand]

Brewers grains slip through parlour feeders?

well no lol, i meant replace the cake in the parlour with a few brewers grains added in a buffer feed after milking.

If you dont buffer feed because you have loads of fresh grass available and you want to stay on top of it then i wouldn't recommend it.

 

[In the pit]

well no lol, i meant replace the cake in the parlour with a few brewers grains added in a buffer feed after milking.

If you dont buffer feed because you have loads of fresh grass available and you want to stay on top of it then i wouldn't recommend it.

Buffer feeding
Ha ha ha

 

[Wishful Thinker]

Horse it in to them and take a couple fields out for reseeding.
A win for this year and a win for grass quality next spring.

 

[Kiss]

Same situation

already turned it up a week ago to see what response we would have think we will be turning the feeders back down

I have heard of better response from feeding brewers grain this time of year

 

[jimmer]

As an aside but still relative
Been out measuring today, does anyone else change settings on plonker to allow for high dm grass,, had some interesting readings that my eyes don't agree with

 

[dairydurham]

i have a question for you all. If increasing Cake is so expensive and you say it depresses intakes of forage, why dont you buffer feed with brewers grains added into the mix which are known to boost intakes and i believe they are around £45/tn = approx £180 per ton of DM against all your compounds which will be all near or above £300 per ton of DM.

you can replace 1kg of cake with 3.5 kg of brewers and everyone knows you'll get your money back in milk from them.

But brewers will crash your BF

 

[Chimera]

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As an aside but still relative
Been out measuring today, does anyone else change settings on plonker to allow for high dm grass,, had some interesting readings that my eyes don't agree with

Very seldomly do my eyes and the plate meter agree! I end up getting the hump with it

 

[Devon lad]

As an aside but still relative
Been out measuring today, does anyone else change settings on plonker to allow for high dm grass,, had some interesting readings that my eyes don't agree with

Threw mine out in mid April I think, grass DM has been so high this year, I just do it by eye recently

 

[MrA.G.]

similar discussion in this week’s Irish Farmers Journal

 

[vantage]

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similar discussion in this week’s Irish Farmers Journal

Not worth it for stale and mids, different story for early lactation.

 

[Devon lad]

But what do you do if grass quality is negligible and there is moisture deficit looming? Put in more cake and push out round length so poor quality grass gets even more stem? Feel like we’re stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

[In the pit]

But what do you do if grass quality is negligible and there is moisture deficit looming? Put in more cake and push out round length so poor quality grass gets even more stem? Feel like we’re stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Why should pasture quality be negligible when you’ve had first cut of and quality aftermaths are available and rain coming in again

 

[In the pit]

Funny year this cold spring ,then wet may but I’ve come out of it with a clamp and a half more silage than last year and a lot of acres ready for second cut
Some one said there grass was going to head because it was getting dry, really , it’s going to head cause that’s what grass does at this time of year

 

[Devon lad]

No noticeable rain here for nearly 4 weeks now

 

[Devon lad]

Why should pasture quality be negligible when you’ve had first cut of and quality aftermaths are available and rain

No noticeable rain here for nearly 4 weeks now

first cut was only 2 weeks ago, 3 weeks later than usual, contractors overloaded with work. Pits are full of silage but it’s not great quality.