Fendt 828 reliability

[daveydiesel1]

Gear? It has gears?
Spools? Bloody infuriating when some hero has it set up so the yellow spool switch controls the blue spool and 3t of spuds drop out of the trailer because the door has opened instead of the body lifting.

Your average car driver can manage 1234 on a stick and a pair of colour coded spool levers

Sussing out how to work the puh or disconnecting a hydraulic brake line on a starship enterprise is an unnecessary mystery to unfamiliar drivers

Each function of the screen makes work easier, the fendt screen is easy to navigate but you obvs need to kinda know what your doin. The massey "screens" on the other hand is like a dogs dinner

 

[Wellytrack]

Each function of the screen makes work easier, the fendt screen is easy to navigate but you obvs need to kinda know what your doin. The massey "screens" on the other hand is like a dogs dinner

Do you still get the topless lassie on the Vario terminal?

 

[yorkie]

Was there not much hold back on it?

nothing , pulled you down

 

[Stewie]

Gear? It has gears?

I mean the switch between range I and II.

Spools? Bloody infuriating when some hero has it set up so the yellow spool switch controls the blue spool and 3t of spuds drop out of the trailer because the door has opened instead of the body lifting.

Your average car driver can manage 1234 on a stick and a pair of colour coded spool levers

Sussing out how to work the puh or disconnecting a hydraulic brake line on a starship enterprise is an unnecessary mystery to unfamiliar drivers

Well I would describe myself as a casual driver and I have no problem with a few keys... Also when doing trailer work I try spool and brakes before starting. Maybe I am selling myself short

But you have a point, you must work with the casuals you have and probably a mechanical tractor would be more suited to your situation.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Do you still get the topless lassie on the Vario terminal?

That must be an option that wasnt specced on any iv been in

 

[ollie989898]

Fendt terminal is no more complex than the JD one. A couple of minute and you can generally find anything you want or you can read the manual. It's not rocket science, if you can work a PC a terminal in a tractor should be no issue and pulling the wrong spool is a feature of any machine with more than 1 spool, a problem that has existed since tractors had them. If you don't know which spool does what you ask or check first, surely.

 

[Spud]

I mean the switch between range I and II.


Well I would describe myself as a casual driver and I have no problem with a few keys... Also when doing trailer work I try spool and brakes before starting. Maybe I am selling myself short

But you have a point, you must work with the casuals you have and probably a mechanical tractor would be more suited to your situation.

For casual read occasional operators of a given tractor as much as inexperienced.

ie it was me (who still does1000hrs a year in the seat) who checked which pipe was where on a previously loaded (by its regular driver) trailer, door in one spool controlled by another. Totally unnecessary complication.
Similarly, if you don't know to press the button under the steering wheel before disconnecting the brake pipe you can't get it off. Puh on anything else= easy, arms up, pull handle, lower arms. Fendt = get book out. Just not straightforward til you know. Neither is initially making the thing move for that matter!

 

[ollie989898]

For casual read occasional operators of a given tractor as much as inexperienced.

ie it was me (who still does1000hrs a year in the seat) who checked which pipe was where on a previously loaded (by its regular driver) trailer, door in one spool controlled by another. Totally unnecessary complication.
Similarly, if you don't know to press the button under the steering wheel before disconnecting the brake pipe you can't get it off. Puh on anything else= easy, arms up, pull handle, lower arms. Fendt = get book out. Just not straightforward til you know. Neither is initially making the thing move for that matter!

If you removed all of the control permutations of the Fendt you wouldn't be able to tailor it to suit every application. This is partly why they are so popular to begin with. With a change to the settings they can have all the ease of use as a self propelled machine. This is the point.

 

[Spud]

If you removed all of the control permutations of the Fendt you wouldn't be able to tailor it to suit every application. This is partly why they are so popular to begin with. With a change to the settings they can have all the ease of use as a self propelled machine. This is the point.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying tbh Ollie

 

[daveydiesel1]

For casual read occasional operators of a given tractor as much as inexperienced.

ie it was me (who still does1000hrs a year in the seat) who checked which pipe was where on a previously loaded (by its regular driver) trailer, door in one spool controlled by another. Totally unnecessary complication.
Similarly, if you don't know to press the button under the steering wheel before disconnecting the brake pipe you can't get it off. Puh on anything else= easy, arms up, pull handle, lower arms. Fendt = get book out. Just not straightforward til you know. Neither is initially making the thing move for that matter!

The fendt hitch is far superior to any other brand out there, no need to lower arms so can hitch on at a tight angle, also if a trailer is sunk in you can go diggin for it. Its brilliant

 

[Spud]

The fendt hitch is far superior to any other brand out there, no need to lower arms so can hitch on at a tight angle, also if a trailer is sunk in you can go diggin for it. Its brilliant

Unless it's a loaded trailer then it's rubbish because it won't lift to the top, needs a chain on the arms to help it

 

[daveydiesel1]

Unless it's a loaded trailer then it's rubbish because it won't lift to the top, needs a chain on the arms to help it

Is the the 1 with the swing out linkages? Mine is on a slider and never had any trouble

 

[Spud]

Is the the 1 with the swing out linkages? Mine is on a slider and never had any trouble

Bill Bennett slider

 

[Richard Smyth]

For casual read occasional operators of a given tractor as much as inexperienced.

ie it was me (who still does1000hrs a year in the seat) who checked which pipe was where on a previously loaded (by its regular driver) trailer, door in one spool controlled by another. Totally unnecessary complication.
Similarly, if you don't know to press the button under the steering wheel before disconnecting the brake pipe you can't get it off. Puh on anything else= easy, arms up, pull handle, lower arms. Fendt = get book out. Just not straightforward til you know. Neither is initially making the thing move for that matter!

Think if you have that much issue with Fendt you should just stick to Fergies.

All of the things you have issues with are what I an and most others find good about them. The ability to customise to any operation and have it set identical on each machine no matter whether that machine was last on last week of 5 years ago.

This makes life easy not harder. If you don’t want embrace this then don’t but stop complaining about what makes them stand above the rest.

I’ve no idea about the pickup hitch as don’t use them here

 

[Spud]

Think if you have that much issue with Fendt you should just stick to Fergies.

All of the things you have issues with are what I an and most others find good about them. The ability to customise to any operation and have it set identical on each machine no matter whether that machine was last on last week of 5 years ago.

This makes life easy not harder. If you don’t want embrace this then don’t but stop complaining about what makes them stand above the rest.

I’ve no idea about the pickup hitch as don’t use them here

They have a place, but fanciness brings cost, and that must bring value.
I wouldn't rule out a Fendt here, but I've been spoilt with excellent Sisu engines for many years and would take badly to the disposable Deutz motors in the Fendts of today. And I'll never justify price tags of the 728 no matter the resale value, because I'm not big enough to have cash of that level to have sat in a depreciating lump of metal. It'd still be doing the same jobs much cheaper simpler kit could do.
I might sound like a miserable old philistine but hardly - we embraced datatronic in the 90's, vario in 2006 & autosteer in 2009.
Tech in AG makes brass for everyone connected to it - except the poor bugger footing the bill!

 

[Richard Smyth]

They have a place, but fanciness brings cost, and that must bring value.
I wouldn't rule out a Fendt here, but I've been spoilt with excellent Sisu engines for many years and would take badly to the disposable Deutz motors in the Fendts of today. And I'll never justify price tags of the 728 no matter the resale value, because I'm not big enough to have cash of that level to have sat in a depreciating lump of metal. It'd still be doing the same jobs much cheaper simpler kit could do.
I might sound like a miserable old philistine but hardly - we embraced datatronic in the 90's, vario in 2006 & autosteer in 2009.
Tech in AG makes brass for everyone connected to it - except the poor bugger footing the bill!

So keep doing what you are doing and stop complaining about it to those are wanting to make their life easier by using this stuff to its best.

Just remember mf were one of the first if not the first to introduce fully electronic linkage control systems into their tractors 40 years ago.

Spend your money where you want and so will I and it won’t be a mf

 

[Spud]

So keep doing what you are doing and stop complaining about it to those are wanting to make their life easier by using this stuff to its best.

Just remember mf were one of the first if not the first to introduce fully electronic linkage control systems into their tractors 40 years ago.

Spend your money where you want and so will I and it won’t be a mf

I will, thank you

This is a forum, where opinions and experiences are exchanged, is it not?

It'd be a dull old place if we all thought the same about everything wouldn't it?

Not sure why you've got rattled by me having different preferences to you, but heyho, life is far too short to worry about it.

I'm very aware of MF leading the field re electronic linkage, the 3000 was and arguably still is the best, simplest and most user friendly system since the quadrant lever on a grey fergie in 1948
The modern equivalent is the Fendt derived vario box coupled to a Sisu engine with simple MF software to operate it. Dead easy.

 

[Richard Smyth]

I will, thank you

This is a forum, where opinions and experiences are exchanged, is it not?

It'd be a dull old place if we all thought the same about everything wouldn't it?

Not sure why you've got rattled by me having different preferences to you, but heyho, life is far too short to worry about it.

I'm very aware of MF leading the field re electronic linkage, the 3000 was and arguably still is the best, simplest and most user friendly system since the quadrant lever on a grey fergie in 1948
The modern equivalent is the Fendt derived vario box coupled to a Sisu engine with simple MF software to operate it. Dead easy.

Mf software in a 7495 I occasionally use is pathetic. I’ll stick to Fendt software that works Thankyou.

Do not care what your preferences are but you seem hell bent on putting Fendt down and saying how an inferior product is better.

 

[Spud]

Mf software in a 7495 I occasionally use is pathetic. I’ll stick to Fendt software that works Thankyou.

Do not care what your preferences are but you seem hell bent on putting Fendt down and saying how an inferior product is better.

Not at all

I buy, own and pay for all of our machines, and are responsible for every activity, including training operators. My experience is different to yours. Nowt wrong with that,

We all have preferences - as I said, it'd be a dull world if we didn't.

A Fendt (or a fergie) has every bit a place as a Belarus (or any other make) You (or I) don't have to like any, all or the same ones.

MF might be inferior for your operation, but it's absolutely fine for mine. A forester might say the same about an old County, but I wouldn't thank you for one as my daily work steed, thanks all the same.

 

[Flat 10]

Mf software in a 7495 I occasionally use is pathetic. I’ll stick to Fendt software that works Thankyou.

Do not care what your preferences are but you seem hell bent on putting Fendt down and saying how an inferior product is better.

I think that’s just the way you are choosing to take it.