Fendt vario ml number designation

[daveydiesel1]

Just a curiosity question here. Does the number designated to each size of transmision actually mean anything other than a way of identifying it. As in a 716 has a ml 140, 718-720 has a ml 180iirc and a 516 has a ml 90. Reason i ask is a ml 90 sounds quite small for a 516 compared to a ml140 in a 716 which is near enough the same power going through it.

 

[Foxcover]

Just a curiosity question here. Does the number designated to each size of transmision actually mean anything other than a way of identifying it. As in a 716 has a ml 140, 718-720 has a ml 180iirc and a 516 has a ml 90. Reason i ask is a ml 90 sounds quite small for a 516 compared to a ml140 in a 716 which is near enough the same power going through it.

All different. Quite a difference in size between a 90 and 260 unsurprisingly.

 

[daveydiesel1]

All different. Quite a difference in size between a 90 and 260 unsurprisingly.

I understand theyr different, but does the actual number correlate to say the power it can handle or something else or is it just a generic number used for a model number?

 

[s~~t shoveller]

Think the ml 260 was named when the fendt 926 260 hp came out and never been changed

 

[Glaws]

Just a curiosity question here. Does the number designated to each size of transmision actually mean anything other than a way of identifying it. As in a 716 has a ml 140, 718-720 has a ml 180iirc and a 516 has a ml 90. Reason i ask is a ml 90 sounds quite small for a 516 compared to a ml140 in a 716 which is near enough the same power going through it.

The first generation of Vario transmissions were named for their primary inventor, Hans Marschall and the different classes of the transmission were labeled in honor of him using the format of "MLxxx" where the x characters would indicate how many kilowatts of power could be transferred through the transmission.

 

[daveydiesel1]

The first generation of Vario transmissions were named for their primary inventor, Hans Marschall and the different classes of the transmission were labeled in honor of him using the format of "MLxxx" where the x characters would indicate how many kilowatts of power could be transferred through the transmission.

So would i be right in thinking a ml 90 in a 516 is on the light side for its power then?

 

[Southmec32]

All different. Quite a difference in size between a 90 and 260 unsurprisingly.

Just a curiosity question here. Does the number designated to each size of transmision actually mean anything other than a way of identifying it. As in a 716 has a ml 140, 718-720 has a ml 180iirc and a 516 has a ml 90. Reason i ask is a ml 90 sounds quite small for a 516 compared to a ml140 in a 716 which is near enough the same power going through it.

716 has a ml180 I think.

 

[daveydiesel1]

716 has a ml180 I think.

Tractor data says a ml 140 but it could be wrong. If ut is a 180 does that mean that a 716 vario can take twice the power than a 516 vario can take? Doesnt seem right but it could be

 

[mf7480]

Does it matter?

 

[Chae1]

Does it matter?

Yeah, who cares.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Does it matter?

No its was just a curiosity post thats all

 

[Blue.]

No its was just a curiosity post thats all

Do you have access to agco parts?
I’ve spent hours comparing the transmissions used,part numbers etc…

 

[bartdereu]

The number stands for the power the transmission approximatly can handly. The ML90 can withstand 90kw of power, and so on.
The letters ML come from the initial designer of these kinds of transmissions, Hans Marchal Leistungs vertsweigung

Fendt changed it type indication for the new vario's to TA , standing for Trans Axle. (with no groups anymore)

Knowing this, the ML90 was first installed in the 400 series, who went up to 120hp , around 88kw . Later it is installed in a 516 ,
who had 117kw of maxmum power. I know that this 117kw is the brute max power of the engine, and that allof of power goes
lost in the cooling power etc.. but 27kw of power is never the case.

I truly think the ML90 is a very reliable transmission that can handle allot more then 90kw.

 

[oakleaf]

Does it matter?

Yeah, who cares.

Yes. To anyone considering purchasing a 160 hp Fendt I’d say it would matter quite a lot that one has a transmission capable of handling double the power of the other.
Why so blasé about a post simply seeking information

 

[ollie989898]

Yes. To anyone considering purchasing a 160 hp Fendt I’d say it would matter quite a lot that one has a transmission capable of handling double the power of the other.
Why so blasé about a post simply seeking information

I am sure Fendt themselves know how much power can reliably put through the transmission in a 516. The only people who don't yet know how much power the gearbox can take will be people getting their tractors chipped.

 

[daveydiesel1]

The number stands for the power the transmission approximatly can handly. The ML90 can withstand 90kw of power, and so on.
The letters ML come from the initial designer of these kinds of transmissions, Hans Marchal Leistungs vertsweigung

Fendt changed it type indication for the new vario's to TA , standing for Trans Axle. (with no groups anymore)

Knowing this, the ML90 was first installed in the 400 series, who went up to 120hp , around 88kw . Later it is installed in a 516 ,
who had 117kw of maxmum power. I know that this 117kw is the brute max power of the engine, and that allof of power goes
lost in the cooling power etc.. but 27kw of power is never the case.

I truly think the ML90 is a very reliable transmission that can handle allot more then 90kw.

So a remap on a 516 would be a big no no as the vario would already be streched to its abilities if not beyond it. A 516 would do what i need and is meant to be very frugal and thats what attracts me to it. Just considering future tractor upgrade so thats why i asked. Is it a larger vario fitted to a mf 6s180 thats boosting to 200hp

 

[seedman stains]

https://www.agriaffaires.com/occasi...7581/reparation-boite-vario-fendt-massey.html give these lot a call

 

[James]

https://www.agriaffaires.com/occasi...7581/reparation-boite-vario-fendt-massey.html give these lot a call

Have you dealt with them?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Have you dealt with them?

Iv seen them advertise on agriaffaires but would be nice to hear of some1 thats bought from them before

 

[Farma Parma]

So a remap on a 516 would be a big no no as the vario would already be streched to its abilities if not beyond it. A 516 would do what i need and is meant to be very frugal and thats what attracts me to it. Just considering future tractor upgrade so thats why i asked. Is it a larger vario fitted to a mf 6s180 thats boosting to 200hp

Pretty sure the Vario in a 6S be the same as my 7719 which is essentialy a 7S-190 in diff clothes.
Its a ML140 by the way.