fert and seed drilling

[damaged]

Blended corrrctly does anyone think its possible to drill seed and fert down one tube. Cost of drill saving outweigh problems. Any comments?

 

[D C]

I'd think they'd settle out in the drill box but I don't know?

 

[Andbarbred]

I think achieving and maintaining the blend would be the problem. Metered out of separate hoppers and delivered down a shared tube might be an answer.

 

[damaged]

Could do with a mounted drill with seed and fert tank like Dale eco3 or Claydon hybrid but costs way too high for new kit on 500 acres.So just wondering if I can cut corners.
Will fert burn seed at same depth? Will it stick with damp air in tank. Etc etc
Low disturbance drilling seems to need fert due to low minerlised N.

 

[Badshot]

Could do with a mounted drill with seed and fert tank like Dale eco3 or Claydon hybrid but costs way too high for new kit on 500 acres.So just wondering if I can cut corners.
Will fert burn seed at same depth? Will it stick with damp air in tank. Etc etc
Low disturbance drilling seems to need fert due to low minerlised N.

make yourself a front hopper based system for the fert maybe.

 

[tw15]

Blended corrrctly does anyone think its possible to drill seed and fert down one tube. Cost of drill saving outweigh problems. Any comments?

Used to do it in the 80's with a mf 30 drill 75 kg a acre of 20.10.10. Never had any problems.

 

[JDJ]

No problem at all. We mixed seed and fert for winter and spring barley for many years without any problems. We just emptied the bags of seed and fert in to our grain intake and and let the Elevator lift it up to mix it for half an hour, and the put it in to bags again.
The fert needs to be good quality without any dust.
Especially in spring barley it raised our yelds a lot.

 

[jhorr30]

As been said its no problem with seed burn.
We do 12-1400 acres a year with grain an fert down the same tube.
Never grown oil seed rape so don't know how it would be affected. I would 99% think it would be fine.
As above be far better with 2 hoppers.

 

[damaged]

Thanks everyone. Looks like I can make do with one tank. Front tank good idea but it could be on and off like a yo-yo. Not sure how much time that would take.
I should have put it on Christmas list.

 

[dontknowanything]

No problem at all. We mixed seed and fert for winter and spring barley for many years without any problems. We just emptied the bags of seed and fert in to our grain intake and and let the Elevator lift it up to mix it for half an hour, and the put it in to bags again.
The fert needs to be good quality without any dust.
Especially in spring barley it raised our yelds a lot.

Did you put entire fert requirement down at drilling?

 

[JDJ]

No, the old Co 4 has maximum at 300 Kg pr ha, 140 kg spring barley and 160 kg ns 21-24 is Max. Normally we get 30-40 ton slurry injected before drilling, so the n in the seed was just to top up to the 105 Kg N we are allowed to give spring barley here in Denmark.
http://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/21109/ I build this so we can give full amount of fert with the drill on the fields where slurry injection is too expensive (too steep, or too far away from the tank) the seed and fert outlets on the openers we are using are so close together so it will end up in the same place.
500 kgs of 21-3-10 together with spring barley is no problem.

There are made some trails here in Denmark, with full amount of fert mixed up with seed and urea N 34 was the only type of fert that gave scorching of the crop.

Jacob

 

[Alistair Nelson]

If you are looking for a Grain and Fert hopper with single outlets so the seed and fert are mixed in the air stream a friend of mine has the hopper off an Accord DC available will only have done couple of hundred acres of fert work as been on a subsoiler rape drill and prior to that never used with fert if you are are interested.

Alistair

 

[damaged]

Cheers Alistair. Ive a spare accord drill but the question really lent toward answering if running a cheaper, single tank drill like a dts or mzuri (or co4)was an option over expensive twin tank (usually trailed too).

Glad of positive experience from forum. Invaluable as always

 

[ringer]

Cheers Alistair. Ive a spare accord drill but the question really lent toward answering if running a cheaper, single tank drill like a dts or mzuri (or co4)was an option over expensive twin tank (usually trailed too).

Glad of positive experience from forum. Invaluable as always

I use liquid fert on my SumoDTS 3 with a home made system built from my Samco front tank and a 12v electric pump.
It's reasonably accurate as once you stay around 8km/hr at about 1.8bar pressure. I aim for around 120l/ha of an omex 7:20:0 on winter wheat.

 

[H.Jackson]

I use liquid fert on my SumoDTS 3 with a home made system built from my Samco front tank and a 12v electric pump.
It's reasonably accurate as once you stay around 8km/hr at about 1.8bar pressure. I aim for around 120l/ha of an omex 7:20:0 on winter wheat.

Does the fert end up between the rows or with the seed?

 

[ringer]

Does the fert end up between the rows or with the seed?

I use a 3 way nozzle that mixes the fert with the seed. I got this nozzle from Sumo but before on my old Claydon strip till I used a single nozzle to put the Fert down below the seed shoe behind the ripper tine. I think placing the fert below the seed in the ripper tine channel is a good idea.
In the picture I had liquid seaweed mixed in with the liquid fert to also promote root growth

 

[ajd132]

I think the amazone cayena mixes seed and fert?

 

[damaged]

@ajd132 Amazone primera yes, seed and fert but not many used ones sub 10k? or even 30k