Fertiliser stocks

[Manney]

Bought 58 ton today. 54k

For this year or next?

 

[Beef farmer]

For this year or next?

Weve took on a bit of ground, so will use it this year. There is a reason milks going up, but it needs to keep going to buy all your fert at 1k/ton

 

[Moorlands]

Weve took on a bit of ground, so will use it this year. There is a reason milks going up, but it needs to keep going to buy all your fert at 1k/ton

Get on taking on a BIT of ground uses 58t of fert!!

 

[ARW]

Maybe I shouldn’t of voted but I voted buying nothing, my bit of hay making will have to go with out

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Weve took on a bit of ground, so will use it this year. There is a reason milks going up, but it needs to keep going to buy all your fert at 1k/ton

Will the extra ground be worth it? Certainly makes you sit down and think hard.

 

[Dragon]

Will the extra ground be worth it? Certainly makes you sit down and think hard.

Depends on the logistic, I was offered 40 acres for 2 cuts we can run the umbilical to it (fair distance) and won't apply any N, the silage will be suitable for dry cows and cost a lot less than hay.

 

[Beef farmer]

Will the extra ground be worth it? Certainly makes you sit down and think hard.

Dunno. If grain falls to £180/ton and maize back to £36/ton then no.
As said above, milks 40p for a reason. Gas prices are rising again. I was talking to a neighbour and we both discussed buying all of next years @ that money. Sooner have 300k woth of expensive fert than 1000 cows and no food as cant get fert delivered.

 

[gone up the hill]

Dunno. If grain falls to £180/ton and maize back to £36/ton then no.
As said above, milks 40p for a reason. Gas prices are rising again. I was talking to a neighbour and we both discussed buying all of next years @ that money. Sooner have 300k woth of expensive fert than 1000 cows and no food as cant get fert delivered.

Someone has posted on another thread on here today ( forget which thread ) that they know of a couple of 1000 or so head beef finishing units up North that have run out of barley and are struggling to find any, they are using something like 70 ton a week and have been paying £295 delivered in so around £21k a week in Barley costs alone and now they have been quoted £315 ton for the next couple of weeks grain!

You cannot beat having too much home grown feed in store, that Fert you have bought today will be a very good investment/ insurance policy.

 

[Conrod96]

We’ve been very fortunate and bought ours all before Christmas for the year at @380 a tonne which we thought was madness at the time but looks smart now hoping to take couple of good cuts and then ease back abit as we’ve plenty of silage left and will have wholecrop to come in maybe some fert left over for next year then

 

[Dragon]

Someone has posted on another thread on here today ( forget which thread ) that they know of a couple of 1000 or so head beef finishing units up North that have run out of barley and are struggling to find any, they are using something like 70 ton a week and have been paying £295 delivered in so around £21k a week in Barley costs alone and now they have been quoted £315 ton for the next couple of weeks grain!

You cannot beat having too much home grown feed in store, that Fert you have bought today will be a very good investment/ insurance policy.

Large beef unit I know of buys grain at harvest, has now sold the grain at a tidy profit and has not replaced finished cattle with stores, can't see the money in it.

 

[Bramble]

Selling the 150 tonnes I have of fert for a £700/t profit would probably make more than I could from farming for the year.

Crazy times

 

[coomoo]

Selling the 150 tonnes I have of fert for a £700/t profit would probably make more than I could from farming for the year.

Crazy times

Thats a lot of fert

 

[Llmmm]

We’ve been very fortunate and bought ours all before Christmas for the year at @380 a tonne which we thought was madness at the time but looks smart now hoping to take couple of good cuts and then ease back abit as we’ve plenty of silage left and will have wholecrop to come in maybe some fert left over for next year then

You must be well got with your merchant as far back as august 2021 merchants were slow to release stock by september it was all sold out dont know how you got it for 380 before christmas

 

[snarling bee]

I was 'lucky' due to last seasons wet autumn (and a lot of unplanned spring crops) to have 80t left in stock. Bought most of the rest early doors as normal. I am saving 20-40kg/ha for next year.

Not sure any of this is sensitive information. The trade know the figures anyway.

 

[Beef farmer]

I was 'lucky' due to last seasons wet autumn (and a lot of unplanned spring crops) to have 80t left in stock. Bought most of the rest early doors as normal. I am saving 20-40kg/ha for next year.

Not sure any of this is sensitive information. The trade know the figures anyway.

The trade where shocked by the above poll and pulled prices by 150 quid overnight.

 

[Milkcow365]

34.5 £763 here

 

[More to life]

The trade where shocked by the above poll and pulled prices by 150 quid overnight.

with only a third operating at a
normal level it shows milk buyers production will continue to be challenged.

 

[gone up the hill]

Large beef unit I know of buys grain at harvest, has now sold the grain at a tidy profit and has not replaced finished cattle with stores, can't see the money in it.

That does not surprise me tbh !

Will be very intresting to see what happens after this harvest going into the autumn store cattle sales, if grain stays as high or goes higher than current values ( which the latter could well happen ) and store prices are firm will beef finishers look at the large pile of home grain in the shed and decide that its worth far too much to feed to cattle and will they end up selling it and not buying cattle!

If they are feeding 10 kilos a day of grain that is easily £3.30 head just in grain alone at current values let alone all the other costs like haulage/ silage/ straw/ water/elec/ Labour etc so will be heading towards £5 a day what with the way current input prices for these things are going!

 

[Blue.]

Not bought any,have 6 months of silage left in the clamp,I’m more concerned about straights prices.

 

[egbert]

Couldn't see the box for 'haven't bought any yet, and am unlikely to buy very much at current trade'

I'm likely to adjust fodder requirement with further phone calls to 'Happy valley home for retired suckler cows', and by buying some hay in.