Fibrophos v Sewage sludge

[Simple cavan farmer]

Tigerfert is no longer available.

P-Grow is the best and most concentrated form of phosphate fertiliser. It’s incinerated bone meal rather than incinerated poultry manure like Fibrophos.

There is no smell or pathogen risk at all and it’s quite strictly regulated so you know what you’re getting.

Compared to the steeply rising costs of TSP it’s also very well price

Correct. Still produced but not marketed as TigerFert. All tonnage is contracted to another supplier and 100% sold into ag.

Thats what I thought!!!!!

I don't know the laws in England, but any material that is derived from Cat1 material or SRM (SUSPECT RISK MATERIAL) is prohibited from use here in ireland. Ash from this process has to go to landfill, but we have a problem over here!!! We don't have any incinerators to take the stuff. Was going to a cement factory for fuel for the kilns and I think has stopped. All our waste is exported to England hence why our dept. Of agriculture was advertising how to get rid of it

 

[Renaultman]

Has anyone got any experience of J-Pash?
It's supposedly bone meal ash, probably not wise for grassland.

Fibrophos is getting harder to source and increasing in cost (like everything else), and potassic lime is a 'no no' north of the border. Just looking for other bulk P&K sources, and to boycott TSP and MoP with their bulls**t pricing.

I've used a bit this year, for that reason, only on arable land though, stunk of burnt hair

 

[Simple cavan farmer]

I've used a bit this year, for that reason, only on arable land though, stunk of burnt hair

Renaultman, have you got a data sheet for the product?

 

[Renaultman]

Renaultman, have you got a data sheet for the product?

 

[Ploughmaster]

I'm on the understanding that a leading rendering company was promoting the product?

J. G. Pears (TigerFert Ltd is a subsidiary of that company). They have a rendering plant together with a heat/power station at Newark fueled by MBM.

Correct. Still produced but not marketed as TigerFert. All tonnage is contracted to another supplier and 100% sold into ag.

Care to share the details? Or is it a military secret?

 

[Mounty]

You've already stated above. JSECo take all their product.

 

[Ploughmaster]

You've already stated above. JSECo take all their product.

errr, nope, as far as I can see, JSE Systems haven't been previously named on this thread by anyone (me included), but thank you for the reply.

Although it is actually initially marketed by John Hatcher & Co, with JSE being one of the agents.

 

[Mounty]

I meant the JG Pears bit. You seem very well informed considering you were asking for the details in the previous post.

 

[ollie989898]

Very interesting the ins and outs of this as specified by the ministry. Only Cat 2 and 3 material can be spread on farmland. What then happens to the Cat 1 stuff? I presume this is because of the risk of TSEs? Anyone throw some light on what happens to the ash from cat 1 incinerators?

 

[Ploughmaster]

I meant the JG Pears bit. You seem very well informed considering you were asking for the details in the previous post.

I have been doing a bit of digging around the internet - interesting what you can find out, but also equally interesting is what is difficult or seemingly impossible to discover.

 

[Ploughmaster]

Anyone throw some light on what happens to the ash from cat 1 incinerators?

I would imagine it goes into landfill as that is the other option mentioned in the document you have posted.

 

[ollie989898]

I would imagine it goes into landfill as that is the other option mentioned in the document you have posted.

Having re-read that page it says ash is not subject to the ABP regulations. I presume high-temperature incineration destroys everything, including any prions which may be present. I know for a long time meat and bonemeal was burnt in cement making with the resultant ash I presume being then used in concrete products.

 

[Simple cavan farmer]

Very interesting the ins and outs of this as specified by the ministry. Only Cat 2 and 3 material can be spread on farmland. What then happens to the Cat 1 stuff? I presume this is because of the risk of TSEs? Anyone throw some light on what happens to the ash from cat 1 incinerators?

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Looks like the same with yee over the water as us in ireland.

Cat1 material is a massive problem over here. We call it the "nuclear" waste of ireland..LOL.

I wonder has the incineration of cat2/cat3 stopped. The rendering industry can get higher prices for the products now?

 

[Simple cavan farmer]

Having re-read that page it says ash is not subject to the ABP regulations. I presume high-temperature incineration destroys everything, including any prions which may be present. I know for a long time meat and bonemeal was burnt in cement making with the resultant ash I presume being then used in concrete products.

Yea ollie, I know where your coming from with the high heat...but Cat1 is a dirty word.