robinsjanis
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Mine 13 year old Pottinger does 70-80mm, even at the end of the day.
Without knives it's around 150mm.
Fliegl Buffel
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Without knives it's around 150mm.
Average? Really? Only if it goes across the knifes. If it goes in length ways it won' get cut
robinsjanis
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Yes, it won't cut, but if you put silage in the mixer wagon with knives, it does cutting for as small as 25mm. No cattle need 25mm silage. Optimal is around 70-80mm so they can ruminate.
- Location
- Acton Scott, South Shropshire
Which is why it pays to be fussy about how it is raked
john432
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- Location
- Carmarthenshire
Could you explain? please.
what a complete waste of time
its like something invented by a whacky inventor 20 years ago and not a professional company in this day&age!
on those wee dry rows a pottinger/straut/krone would be romping down them at 20kph! packing the stuff in and making the haulage efficient.
fliegl need to get their heads out of the clouds!
its like something invented by a whacky inventor 20 years ago and not a professional company in this day&age!
on those wee dry rows a pottinger/straut/krone would be romping down them at 20kph! packing the stuff in and making the haulage efficient.
fliegl need to get their heads out of the clouds!
- Location
- Galloway
- Location
- Acton Scott, South Shropshire
If you are careful about how the grass is raked it influences the amount of grass that is presented at 90 degrees to the knives to maximise the chop. Lots of people rake 3 into one like you would for a spfh but this means the middle swath is unmoved and much of the grass passes through the knives with little chopping.
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
All very well but I doubt you'd get much parts backup for it over here. Fliegls UK operation is a shambles.
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
Personally I think that its not a bad idea. The downfall of the forage wagon is that on long hauls it isn't working a large amount of the time and multiple wagons are expensive. Also on poor or steep ground you cannot exploit the capacity of a wagon fully, this system would allow you to fill trailers to capacity even if they were part filled running alongside then topped up stationary at the gate, something neither a wagon or a chopper can do.
I would say its a good halfway house between a wagon and a forager.
Plus, with a chopper how much grass bounces out of the trailer in that green mist?
I would say its a good halfway house between a wagon and a forager.
Plus, with a chopper how much grass bounces out of the trailer in that green mist?
- Location
- Acton Scott, South Shropshire
Unless ALL the ground is steep, I would disagree, wagons are very efficient at clearing steep ground as you can part fill on the steep then top up on flatter areas.
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
And if its all steep and wet??
And if not ? so what do you do ?
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Put a New Zealander on it
I drove for a crew for 4 months out there, 3 teams. One team the forager was called the goat.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
We sometimes used to hang the chopper from strops off the old Magnum to clear sidlings.. good fun!
DX 3.90
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- Location
- Shropshire
Do you not think it looks like a nice simple light weight idea, which i would imagine could be affordable for those who run trailed choppers or small old self propelled choppers, it maybe could even be used to zero graze and feed direct to bunkers?
It's also making use of available hp as it doesn't look like it would take a lot of power, which means not having to have a big heavy tractor that is far too big for any other jobs.
I know several farms locally who would benefit from using a system like this.
It's also making use of available hp as it doesn't look like it would take a lot of power, which means not having to have a big heavy tractor that is far too big for any other jobs.
I know several farms locally who would benefit from using a system like this.
- Location
- Acton Scott, South Shropshire
I was offering my opinion as a wagon contractor and whether it would be of interest to me - I agree it could be of potential interest for the scenarios you describe where they already have trailers, tractors and men available.