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- NSW, Newstralya
You put yourself up on a pedestal, you’re more likely to get knocked off . . .
Food Imports solve all the problems for the UK...
- Thread starter Chris F
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- Owaka, New Zealand
I've had to train myself in the art of taking a sh!t during work hours, and can confirm the paperwork is the most important part to get right.
I'm sure industry-level training would cover every nook and cranny.
It's really important not to trivialise or indeed poo-poo these matters of National Food Security
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
When I worked for Fonterra there was a how-to poster on the wall above the sinks showing people how to properly wash their hands.
The hoops the company had to jump through to make sure all the boxes were ticked was ridiculous. Far in excess of any on farm rules I've seen.
I don't think it matters what industry you're in now, it's getting very silly.
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- DD9.
Yes, it may of been an M and S bolt on, but I had to put up posters akin to something from primary school and get them to sign and say they understood.
Without bees, there would be no or very limited crops
Altering ecosystems is playing with fire. Humans are good at it though
Devil's advocate
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- Posh side of Barnsley
Its a lot easier to grow broccoli in Australlia than UK that is a fact.
I happened to find a website with the list of legal fungicides & the harvest intervals, would make life easier if we could use the same.
On the other hand Canadian made Dursban has a different label for the Chinese market. But I do know of a case of Fugji apples imported from China dumped because they had Dursban residues. They would have been legal in China possibly Canada too?
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- NSW, Newstralya
many many years ago, we had a chemical called Helix for spraying heliothis caterpillars in cotton. It was a lot safer & gentler than other chemicals we used to use.
Cotton trash from the gins used to be a valuable drought feed for cattle.
Then Helix residues ( the thing is, most chemicals have a MRL - maximum residue level - that is allowed, but Helix didn’t have one in beef, because it had never been tested for before ) were found in Aussie beef exported to Japan & was a MAJOR issue, shutting down the trade for a while & resulting in Helix being banned here ( even though the drought feeding of cotton trash was a one off due to seasonal conditions & Helix was never used on pasture etc ) & pretty onerous restrictions & reporting for a number of years afterwards..
Hers the kicker - Helix was developed & produced by a Japanese company & was originally registered for use in vegetables for human consumption, in Japan & many of their trading partners . . .
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I think this idea that British food is the best and safest is a road we have been taken down by NFU Red tractor etc. All it does is over regulate us and make us less competitive. It’s about to get worse with all this crap about carbon. Trouble is when you read the farming press some of the young brigade are lapping it up.
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
The thing is different countries have different pest and disease pressures so they will use different chemicals. The issue has to be that food sold in the UK has to meet UK standards no matter where it comes from.
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- NSW, Newstralya
just like food here, or in China, or the US, has to meet the standards of that particular country.
just using beef as an example, we have different requirements for export to the EU, Korea, Japan, USA etc etc, let alone our own domestic standards . . .
as an export focussed nation for most of our produce, WE are VERY aware of this. You have to produce to the standards that your BUYERS require . . .
seems others can be a bit naive . . .
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- Essex
I'm more concerned about ecosystems being decimated by chemicals most people don't understand.
"It's perfectly safe" was almost certainly said of DDT and look how that turned out.
capfits
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I’ve only responded with a laughing face cos there’s no floods of tears face. Mankind is fekked.Yes, it may of been an M and S bolt on, but I had to put up posters akin to something from primary school and get them to sign and say they understood.
That’s as it should be isn’t it?
You’d think that would be the basic starting point wouldn’t you? But here we are, completely unable to understand why it’s not. Makes no sense.
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- NSW, Newstralya
YES
EXACTLY
that’s why I can’t understand the TFF wrist wringing & pizzle dampening panic about being forced to accept imports of a “lower” standard
as exporters, we have to comply to our buyers requirements, not our own standards . . .
surely the UK only accepts imports that meet their own standards ?
if not, why not ?
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- Essex
The UK will import the cheapest it can find.YES
EXACTLY
that’s why I can’t understand the TFF wrist wringing & pizzle dampening panic about being forced to accept imports of a “lower” standard
as exporters, we have to comply to our buyers requirements, not our own standards . . .
surely the UK only accepts imports that meet their own standards ?
if not, why not ?
The cap subsided home production, which enabled extra costs to be loaded onto farm businesses without hurting them too much. This is why we have the ridiculous tractor and a supply industry that sucks any profit from the process.
The rest of it, "best food in the world; from farm to fork, (er, sorry that should be farms to fork)," and all those ads telling farmers how much better everything will be if only they buy this machine/chemical/fertiliser are just smooth talking us into carrying on doing what we're doing because it pays others very well.
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- NSW, Newstralya
The whole “best standards in the world” thing really is nothing but bulls**t aye
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
In a nutshell.
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- Hammerwich
At least the lack of common sense seems to exist worldwide!