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Forget Veganuary, it’s time to eat meat! Support World Carnivore Month

Shovelhands

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Location
Sunny Essex
This won’t have anywhere near the publicity of this current vegan movement and propaganda. But there are plenty of people around the world adopting a Carnivore lifestyle, they just don’t shout as loud as the vegans.


Dr Shawn Baker is a big name in the carnivore movement, worth checking him out if you are at all interested. This is an example of one of his videos on YouTube, follow the link and check him out, he’s on many other platforms I believe and is behind the above website.
His videos aren’t high production, but he tells it how it is.
 

A1an

Member
Minorities shout the loudest it seems, whether its hunt sabs, vegans, lgbt, eco warriors blah blah blah. Social media seems to be the soapbox for these minorities.

Il be signing up, I eat a LOT of meat. Il share the link on the various platforms I use.
 
This won’t have anywhere near the publicity of this current vegan movement and propaganda. But there are plenty of people around the world adopting a Carnivore lifestyle, they just don’t shout as loud as the vegans.


Dr Shawn Baker is a big name in the carnivore movement, worth checking him out if you are at all interested. This is an example of one of his videos on YouTube, follow the link and check him out, he’s on many other platforms I believe and is behind the above website.
His videos aren’t high production, but he tells it how it is.
Very interesting. I found some points that I feel need further examination, for me anyway. I'm putting on weight that I don't want or need, being a borderline diabetic.
 
Try it for 30 days, you never know.....

the success stories on Meatrx and featured in Dr Bakers daily videos are very interesting/inspiring.
I probably will try it but I first want to do some more reading. I also read an article a couple days ago on a diabetic website that is saying the Mediteranean diet is good for diabetics as opposed to that crap they try to get you to do now. That wants a little more looking too. So far I've managed to keep my blood sugar numbers below the target of 6.0 with diet and exercise, but since I retired the exercise department is sadly lacking and I need to figure something out soon.

Have you tried it or are you on it now?
 

Shovelhands

Member
Location
Sunny Essex
I probably will try it but I first want to do some more reading. I also read an article a couple days ago on a diabetic website that is saying the Mediteranean diet is good for diabetics as opposed to that crap they try to get you to do now. That wants a little more looking too. So far I've managed to keep my blood sugar numbers below the target of 6.0 with diet and exercise, but since I retired the exercise department is sadly lacking and I need to figure something out soon.

Have you tried it or are you on it now?

I am on it, I have been for a long while now. I can’t say I’ve stuck to it recently, years of sugar addiction gets the better of me sometimes, and before you know it you’ve slipped.....
l tried a Ketogenic diet for a while, which was ok, but I didn’t feel was right for me. So I dropped all the veg and just ate meat, I can honestly say that was the best I have ever felt.
After a long time trying to convince my wife to try a full carnivore diet, she finally went for it in November, it made such a difference doing it together, we never deviated, until she went to a pre planned evening out with her friends, sadly it’s been a bit hit n miss since then for both of us, now with Christmas, and all the temptation that goes with it, we are ready for January and getting back to 100% carnivore! My wife has unfortunately been ill since Christmas Eve, so has started early. Tucking into a delicious meal of only meat, together, is helping us both. My wife is now completely convinced by this way of nutrition, having already seen many positive changes.

On another note, it’s worth checking out Dr Ken D Berry on YouTube, he has written a book called Lies My Doctor Told Me, and does regular health related videos on YouTube. He is a big advocate of a ketogenic diet, and has used it to good effect treating his patients, however he has now adopted a carnivore diet and is in the best health of his life. He has many videos on diabetes, I’d recommend him, as I think he is very genuine, he’s not a salesman trying to sell anything.

Theres lots out information out there, and lots of bad science too, many studies based on bad data funded by people with an interest in the results! Much of the Carnivore evidence is anecdotal, but in some ways I’d rather hear from real people that are thriving than some survey that says you should or shouldn’t do something.
 

simplesimon

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Location
north cornwall
My father is pre diabetic so I have been researching diets and nutrition to help him but it has opened my eyes to what a con the food industry is. I'm eating lots more animal products now and have cut loads of processed rubbish. Shawn Baker is doing more for livestock farmers than the NFU in my opinion. Some of the body and health transformations on meatrx are difficult to ignore.
 
I haven't run across Ken Berry yet but I did read an article from Kevin Stock which presented his information about the carnivore diet in a concise manner which I liked both for it's format and information. His article suggested that occasional plant products could be introduced on a casual basis without affecting anything adversely. More reading I think is required on both diets, I must admit that "I likes my taters". I would have a problem with the beef perhaps, plastic teeth don't seem to work well with steak, but maybe it's the cuts I've been picking. I've also never been a big fan of fat, I don't care for the texture when it goes in my mouth but perhaps that could be solved by getting meat that is better marbled as opposed to a rind.
 
My father is pre diabetic so I have been researching diets and nutrition to help him but it has opened my eyes to what a con the food industry is. I'm eating lots more animal products now and have cut loads of processed rubbish. Shawn Baker is doing more for livestock farmers than the NFU in my opinion. Some of the body and health transformations on meatrx are difficult to ignore.

A few things I learned that have helped me control blood sugars as a prediabetic. The blood test measures the high peaks and the low peaks and averages them to come up with the magic number so the key is to minimize those peaks. Limit your carb intake to the lower number on the chart, not the higher one. Pick up the slack with meat or protein. Unless you decide to go with a keto or carnivore diet them vegetables must play a good part. Use them wisely, for example, celery burns more calories than it provides so it can help slow down digestion and burn excess calories, like that cookie you would like to have.
Chia seed and hemp hearts, both should be available in the health food section at the market. Neither has an flavour but both are difficult for the body to digest so they both slow down the process, therefore less spikes in blood sugar. Chia seed seems better cooked, I throw a tablespoon, roughly, in my morning porridge. Hemp hearts can be sprinkled on anything and everything. For example, I woke up one morning about 3 AM with an awful craving for ice cream. A smallish dish with a liberal sprinkle of hemp hearts and when I got up at 6, my blood sugar was 6.3, normal for overnight.
Sugar alcohol can be your friend if you still want sweets. your body doesn't process sugar alcohol, it passes through just like water. I drank a lot of liquid on my job, 2 or 3 liters a day so I had to find a substitute for it, mostly fruit juice and soda. I started to make my own lemonade with stevia. Half a teaspoon of pure stevia replaces a cup of sugar and I still had to increase the amount of lemon juice to get it to taste right. you do need to be careful and read the label. A lot of products that have stevia on the front also have added sugars in the contents list on the back. Pure stevia is pricey, the last I bought on was $56 a pound. I had to get it on-line, amazon.
Sour dough bread. Sour dough is a substitute for yeast and the process it uses to make bread rise somehow changes the chemical chains in flour and sugar and renders them neutral or minimal to blood sugars. It does add a different flavour to the bread but not unpleasant. Once again you have to read labels because some companies produce" sourdough flavoured" bread and not the real thing. If you can't find sourdough over there, you can go on-line and get the recipe for the "starter" which is used to make the dough. There are also lots of recipes for its use, basically anything that uses yeast can be made with sourdough.
The most important thing to remember is, "Who funds the research?". Mainstream diabetes sites have a wealth of information that comes from research funded by the drug companies. What do they have to gain by curing diabetes? They have more to gain by managing it. So when I see the term "manage your diabetes" I get cautious about what I read and believe.
Hope this will help Dad some.
 

Shovelhands

Member
Location
Sunny Essex
I haven't run across Ken Berry yet but I did read an article from Kevin Stock which presented his information about the carnivore diet in a concise manner which I liked both for it's format and information. His article suggested that occasional plant products could be introduced on a casual basis without affecting anything adversely. More reading I think is required on both diets, I must admit that "I likes my taters". I would have a problem with the beef perhaps, plastic teeth don't seem to work well with steak, but maybe it's the cuts I've been picking. I've also never been a big fan of fat, I don't care for the texture when it goes in my mouth but perhaps that could be solved by getting meat that is better marbled as opposed to a rind.
As his name has been mentioned a few times now, here’s an interview with Dr Berry
 

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