Future cropping

[cricketandcrops]

Not missing growing oilseed rape, looking at keeping things simple with wheat, barley and beans, which of below do people think is best:

1) spring beans, winter wheat, winter wheat, spring barley, winter barley

2) spring beans, winter wheat, spring barley, winter barley, winter wheat

3) spring beans, winter wheat, winter barley, spring barley, winter wheat

Heavy and so other break crops very limited IMO. Oilseed at 1.5-1.6t/ac stacks up (just) but weed burden dictates Clearfield. Then got the hassle of slugs and pigeons (and flea beetle)

 

[teslacoils]

None. Spring beans. Yuk.

 

[cricketandcrops]

OK, so what would you replace with? Open to ideas because I am running out of them.....apart from maybe some AB15

 

[teslacoils]

Depends how much you value having a non cereal in there. No chance of anything into a digester? Can't be needing serious BG solutions.

 

[teslacoils]

Also, I've never seen a decent wheat after spring barley.

 

[Zippy768]

Why not winter beans?

 

[cricketandcrops]

No digesters nearby, likewise I am not keen following spring barley with wheat, so option 1 is my favoured. Black grass levels manageable, happy with residual control on winter crops

 

[cricketandcrops]

Why not winter beans?

Couldn’t get seed, was going to, could only get spring

 

[Zippy768]

Couldn’t get seed, was going to, could only get spring

Ahh ok, with you now

 

[teslacoils]

Continuous wheat.

 

[robbie]

Option 1 but winter beans if available which can always be planted in the spring if conditions dictate and slot a cover crop into the rotation after 2nd WW and before the spring barley. It could be a normal cover or have you got someone local who would want turnips for sheep as that would give you a minimum 1/4 ton acre extra of spring barley following it.

 

[teslacoils]

Option 1 but winter beans if available which can always be planted in the spring if conditions dictate and slot a cover crop into the rotation after 2nd WW and before the spring barley. It could be a normal cover or have you got someone local who would want turnips for sheep as that would give you a minimum 1/4 ton acre extra of spring barley following it.

@unlacedgecko

 

[unlacedgecko]

@unlacedgecko

Thanks for the tag.

@cricketandcrops I’m looking for 200ha of turnips for this autumn. PM or call me 07842 071126

 

[cricketandcrops]

Thanks for the tag.

@cricketandcrops I’m looking for 200ha of turnips for this autumn. PM or call me 07842 071126

Will do if we go down that route but likely only 16-20 ha so probably not much use

 

[teslacoils]

You could bung it all down to ab15.

 

[bobk]

Wheat with 20% stubble turnips sown March

 

[cricketandcrops]

You could bung it all down to ab15.

My good friend wants something to grow to enjoy his classic machinery......I’ve just got to advise on most profitable and hassle free way, when he said if it was yours what would you grow, and I said “find some numpty who will pay £200 an acre and let them farm it” he wasn’t impressed

 

[teslacoils]

Just wheat then.

 

[AndrewM]

i know its not recommended, but what happens if you grow beans in in 4 instead of in 5? does it make a big difference to disease/nematodes? beans,wheat,winter barley,stubble turnips-spring barley- bck to wheat?

 

[Salopian_Will]

Also, I've never seen a decent wheat after spring barley.

Agree with this. We have a lot of winter barley after spring barley this year which looks total crap too.Here winter barley really needs to be in before the first week of October and often we are cutting laid, brackled spring barley in September and so there is not enough time to be sure we can deal with volunteers. If you are happy ploughing after spring barley then fine...