FYM on growing crop

[Renaultman]

As the title. It kind of looks like it's allowed, for now, I would never contemplate it but fields are fairly dry and frost might be back soon. So the questions are
Will I get a better benefit applying a less well rotted, fresher manure onto a growing crop than incorporating in the Autumn?
Am I going to hurt the bits between tramlines I would have to go at 12m.
All land did get autumn FYM but just a sniff about 5t/ha
Just pondering at the moment.

 

[Barleycorn]

Fresh FYM will suck up your N, you'd be better off moving it a few times to compost it, and apply in the Autumn / spring depending on cropping.

 

[jonnyjon]

Don't think it will soak up n when left on the surface

 

[Renaultman]

Don't think it will soak up n when left on the surface

I wondered that, I know a lot of the grass men do it.

 

[Renaultman]

Thanks for the input, think I will get back inside the box.

 

[Sharpy]

Fresh FYM will suck up your N, you'd be better off moving it a few times to compost it, and apply in the Autumn / spring depending on cropping.

Wtf do you think grassland farmers do? The above is nonsense, as soon as you get any rain the nitrogen in the dung will be available to the plant. The older the dung is the less nitrogen is available.

 

[Chae1]

Thanks for the input, think I will get back inside the box.

Its a good idea if you can do it without causing compaction problems.

Ive argued with people on here before saying its a bad idea. But ive decided they are right.

 

[Renaultman]

Its a good idea if you can do it without causing compaction problems.

Ive argued with people on here before saying its a bad idea. But ive decided they are right.

Compaction is my worry and would normally not even consider it. I think a mad soil sampling session followed by a couple of trials is the solution.

 

[Pebd99]

Done it a few times and it’s always been a better crop from it. Trouble is trying to stay to tramlines and having a spreader capable of handling fresh fym.

 

[multi power]

Don't think it will soak up n when left on the surface

What will it not soak up ?

 

[Brisel]

Done it a few times and it’s always been a better crop from it. Trouble is trying to stay to tramlines and having a spreader capable of handling fresh fym.

@tw15 has used side discharge spreaders to do this in 24m tramlines

 

[jonnyjon]

What will it not soak up ?

The nitrogen

 

[SilliamWhale]

I do it quite often. Works well. Need to pick your days but crack on

 

[Renaultman]

Done it a few times and it’s always been a better crop from it. Trouble is trying to stay to tramlines and having a spreader capable of handling fresh fym.

I would have to split, it's a disc spreader so should be ok to 12m I have about 100t of last autumn's that I would start with.

 

[multi power]

The nitrogen

Why not ? Grass certainly does

 

[Kevtherev]

Spread it on no bother but use a spinning disc type to spread it fine and wide on tramlines.
Lots of valuable nutrients in FYM

 

[milkloss]

Spread it on no bother but use a spinning disc type to spread it fine and wide on tramlines.
Lots of valuable nutrients in FYM

Then why do the arable boys only value it by the NPK constituents?

 

[Hfd Cattle]

I know of a few that spread chicken manure on the winter corn and it seems to do well on it. When FYM is spread on grass it's easier to go over with harrows a couple of weeks later and break up the 'lumps' but not sure how this would be achieved in corn or if it would matter if the 'lumps' were left........or am I just bad at spreading muck. I've got a huge heap of miscanthus compost which will be spread on my winter barley fairly soon but this will be done by contractor who can spread it at 24 m .
This is only if the travelling conditions allow.

 

[Pebd99]

@tw15 has used side discharge spreaders to do this in 24m tramlines

I use a Rolland with the tce spreading deck. It will spread to 28m or so with heavy muck. But It doesn’t take fym straight from the sheds and I struggle to make it stack up financially trying to compost it. Would like to try a Bunning hbd to see if they would manage as it’s a tougher spreader.

 

[Renaultman]

Then why do the arable boys only value it by the NPK constituents?

I use a Rolland with the tce spreading deck. It will spread to 28m or so with heavy muck. But It doesn’t take fym straight from the sheds and I struggle to make it stack up financially trying to compost it. Would like to try a Bunning hbd to see if they would manage as it’s a tougher spreader.

Ah that's what I have. I have spread fresh muck, but it doesn't like it. I do have about 100t of last years left. Can I be cheeky and ask if you could take me a picture of your bed bar mountings and either post it on here or PM me it. Mine are welded directly on to the bed chain, I am sure this is wrong. Any help gratefully appreciated.