Gates that open up the hill with a wheel on one end

jackp

Member
Location
cumbria
Does any one have a picture of a gate they have made or had made with a wheel on one end so it rises when opening up the hill , have seen some with a sliding bottom hinge to allow the gate to rise and have seen some made of box section that are drilled and bolted at every joint so they pivot upwards when they are opened and the end wheel rises up the hill , need something 15’ , five bar , don’t want to use 2 smaller gates that meet in the middle as they are a more time consuming to open , thanks in advance
 

ARW

Member
Location
Yorkshire
We have hung wooden gates with a spring loaded wheel on the end just to take the weight, have the crooks set so the gate swings up as it opens, I don’t have any pictures unfortunately
 

womble8350

Member
Location
York
We have hung wooden gates with a spring loaded wheel on the end just to take the weight, have the crooks set so the gate swings up as it opens, I don’t have any pictures unfortunately


Just do as Arw suggested. Off set crooks and the gate will rise should be no need for the wheel just make sure you have a well set good post.
 

Lincs Lass

Member
Location
north lincs
We have hung wooden gates with a spring loaded wheel on the end just to take the weight, have the crooks set so the gate swings up as it opens, I don’t have any pictures unfortunately
something like these
Image result for field gate riser hinges
 

Bobthebuilder

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
northumberland
Depends how wide your gate is and how steep a rise you want it to move, we have an 18ft galvanise gate on end of cattle yard with a wheel on end to lift it as it swings on a slight raise, plenty give in the crooks for it to swing right back with help from the wheel
 

shumungus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Why do people have a fascination with hanging field gates that have to be perfectly level and plumb? Set your hinge post to accommodate the rise and fall of the land around it and forget about the bubble. How many times have we all seen a newly hung gate that either has to be dragged along the top of the ground or has stones or some other sh!te built up beneath the nose of it to stop lambs getting through?
 

trev7530

Member
Location
Cornwall
In my opinion gates either need to be hung level or following the land, nothing worse than a gate touching the ground one side and a foot off the ground the other.
As said before you need to offset the hanging eyes.
 

tinman

Member
Location
Ulster
Not really to the op's problem but to other suggestions,
Personally I'd rather get a digger, level the ground round the gate and hang my gate and post a with a level, I've never done it any other way.

You wouldn't see any old granite/metal posts and gates hung by the last generation off plumb no matter where they were...

Maybe it's just me but if a jobs worth doing then it's worth doing right, I try to take a bit of pride in My work.
Stay away from the dark side...
 

Lincs Lass

Member
Location
north lincs
Nothing worse than a gate that drags or one that has to be propped to keep it open .
My old boss would have had a fit if both post tops were not level or if the gate was drooping
 

shumungus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Not really to the op's problem but to other suggestions,
Personally I'd rather get a digger, level the ground round the gate and hang my gate and post a with a level, I've never done it any other way.

You wouldn't see any old granite/metal posts and gates hung by the last generation off plumb no matter where they were...

Maybe it's just me but if a jobs worth doing then it's worth doing right, I try to take a bit of pride in My work.
Stay away from the dark side...
Really?
Surely this is better than digging out the hillside.
Look at the pylon in the background for plumb.
That gate is corner hung so it opens flat back against the fence.
If you had steep land and sheep you would understand.
IMG_20191207_092902.jpg
 

Farmer_Joe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
The North
If you post is plumb I often just hit bottom pin/hinge in the post shallow,

Or stager it further back on the post meaning the eye has to be much longer in the gate when closed, same effect when opening pushes gate up as it basically longer at bottom

the effect is as you open the gate it pushes the bottom out lifting the other end.

done correctly they offen self close which is really handy for sneaking through on quad especially with sheep everywhere
 

tinman

Member
Location
Ulster
Really?
Surely this is better than digging out the hillside.
Look at the pylon in the background for plumb.
That gate is corner hung so it opens flat back against the fence.
If you had steep land and sheep you would understand.
I don't have sheep but I wouldn't be short of steep ground.
I'll agree that that's not a simple place to hang a gate altho looking at it I would of pulled a bit off the high side and moulded it in and built up the low side with stone and blinded it.
Then I'd of hung my gate level on it.

It's just a different approach to the same job really, both ways, the gate would still open and let you through. horses for courses.
 

shumungus

Member
Livestock Farmer
The problems with digging gates level apart from the soil erosion from steep banks, a bump on the outside sward when you are mowing, it looking like nothing is take the like of the gate in the picture if that gateway was dug level and you are carting silage through that gate you are wanting to keep the speed up as you are on the pull, a gateway like that you are on a constant gradient so everything stays the same but if it is dug level your trailer pitches level and then has to pitch back up to the slope of the ground so to be safe you have to slow away down. The only reason anyone can have for digging them level is 'that's the way we always done it' and that doesn't count for much.
 

TheTallGuy

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
Best approach I have seen for steep ground is like the old car park/level crossing barriers that swing upwards & the lower part folds in as it goes pivots up, but they're probably not strong enough for cattle (or goats!)
 

tinman

Member
Location
Ulster
The problems with digging gates level apart from the soil erosion from steep banks, a bump on the outside sward when you are mowing, it looking like nothing is take the like of the gate in the picture if that gateway was dug level and you are carting silage through that gate you are wanting to keep the speed up as you are on the pull, a gateway like that you are on a constant gradient so everything stays the same but if it is dug level your trailer pitches level and then has to pitch back up to the slope of the ground so to be safe you have to slow away down. The only reason anyone can have for digging them level is 'that's the way we always done it' and that doesn't count for much.
If you must.

There isn't much of a slope there taking your pilon into account n all, not much I'd level that gate but a lot less than your portraying at the same time so with your load of silage you wouldn't have to be slowing down much and Tbh, id rather slow down a bit going through a gap rather than taking it at the charge of the light brigade.
And if your digger man was any good there would be damn all of a bump to notice if it was put in level.

But hey, on the plus side,
I can't see your gate's from my house and you can't see mine so I'll continue to put up a level gate while you do as you please.

To say,
"The only reason anyone can have for digging them level is 'that's the way we always done it' and that doesn't count for much"
What it counts for on my bit of a farm is Pride in my work, it's easy hanging a gate off plumb.
 

Post Driver

Member
Location
South East
I have done it where the lower eye bolt is extra long so as the gate opens up the hill it can slide within a sleeve in the gate. This was a metal frame security gate. The eye bolts have to be over size too so they don't bind and bend the hooks
 

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