General license renewal.

[juke]

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...SHw-mmLLBDed8eP-uTX8Xc-I0tRPQxR_gHh9pFOAShONU

Part one out to help people with lambs ,poultry ,pigs for crows. It's a start..

 

[An Gof]

11 pages of small print and definition
Suppose we just have to be grateful we have that.
Why is it always necessary to complicate simple things so much?

 

[ianlucasshearing]

So we carry on as normal, just need to print out this b@##ox to cover our self.

 

[Bob c]

only till dec 31

 

[juke]

So we carry on as normal, just need to print out this b@##ox to cover our self.

It's only for crows this one ... More to follow in the next week or two

 

[topground]

Yet another job creation scam for the benefit of the civil service.
The state can only govern with the consent of the majority of the population.
The population this nonsense particulalry affects needs to carry on regardless..

 

[NorthEastLad]

only till dec 31

Only ever lasts till the end of the year.

Allows for a review incase they need to add birds or remove them.

 

[steveR]

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...SHw-mmLLBDed8eP-uTX8Xc-I0tRPQxR_gHh9pFOAShONU

Part one out to help people with lambs ,poultry ,pigs for crows. It's a start..

WTF they cannot do a simple online form?? And I mean SIMPLE....

Just need to sit down and read them through... just what I don't want when I am dealing with RPA cockups on the BPS, and NE cockups on my CS paperwork

 

[steveR]

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...SHw-mmLLBDed8eP-uTX8Xc-I0tRPQxR_gHh9pFOAShONU

Part one out to help people with lambs ,poultry ,pigs for crows. It's a start..

GL33 for Larsen traps... Phew, thank goodness I caught another decoy bird immediately

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...for-trapping-wild-birds-and-using-decoys-gl33

 

[B'o'B]

WTF they cannot do a simple online form?? And I mean SIMPLE....

Just need to sit down and read them through... just what I don't want when I am dealing with RPA cockups on the BPS, and NE cockups on my CS paperwork

No need to fill it out it is a direct replacement for the General License for Carrion Crow

 

[Danllan]

Fortunately it's not needed here in Wales, but I've just read through it and the good news is it removes the grounds for Wild Justice's action, i.e. the new licence ensures that the killing of carrion crows is carried out only as a last resort. I hope you have all got that... No need for any action on your behalves, it follows on in the same way as its predecessor.

I took a squint at the older job and the move by Wild Justice was, from their perspective, entirely justified. Unfortunately the original was implicit rather than explicit in re' the emboldened matter, poor drafting which - I am sure - will not be repeated...

As it happens I rather like Chris Packham, most of the time, although he does have a tendency to gittishness now and then. I think that in this instance he has, inadvertently, ensured that the 'General Licence' will probably persist.

 

[Bob c]

GL33 for Larsen traps... Phew, thank goodness I caught another decoy bird immediately

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...for-trapping-wild-birds-and-using-decoys-gl33

thats a guide ,.......still need to apply

 

[Danllan]

thats a guide ,.......still need to apply

Please explain, because I've read it through and it is a 'General' licence...

 

[juke]

please read the link I posted that' is the licese gl26. carrion crows are covered on it, all legal methods are listed on it. no other species has been returned to the general license yet...

 

[JWL]

I did have to smile in that

"Shooting to scare is a highly effective method, especially when combined with other techniques. No licence is required for nonlethal shooting to scare birds."

Well that's allright then as I usually miss anyway

 

[Danllan]

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Yes, well done - although I have an under six year old who can underline straighter - but what do you have to apply for? It's a general licence...

 

[Bob c]

if thats all you can do is wing about my under lining
i wont bother next time
get six year to read for ya

 

[Danllan]

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[yellowbelly]

Well that's allright then as I usually miss anyway

Yeah, but if you're 'shooting to scare' and you miss then, by definition, you must have hit it

I've no idea where you'd stand legally but who cares? It'll be one less crow

 

[Tom_o_m]

Fortunately it's not needed here in Wales, but I've just read through it and the good news is it removes the grounds for Wild Justice's action, i.e. the new licence ensures that the killing of carrion crows is carried out only as a last resort. I hope you have all got that... No need for any action on your behalves, it follows on in the same way as its predecessor.

I took a squint at the older job and the move by Wild Justice was, from their perspective, entirely justified. Unfortunately the original was implicit rather than explicit in re' the emboldened matter, poor drafting which - I am sure - will not be repeated...

As it happens I rather like Chris Packham, most of the time, although he does have a tendency to gittishness now and then. I think that in this instance he has, inadvertently, ensured that the 'General Licence' will probably persist.

I agree, this is an improvement on the existing licence. It is not limiting and stands up to scrutiny.

I hope that the pigeon licence is equally sensible. The individual licence that you have to apply for asks that you outline the non lethal measures tried and NE determine if this was adequate. Timing is so crucial for crop protection. I hope that this burden and delay is only for the temporary licence.

Thankfully I haven't been impacted yet, I'm happy to help with pest control as a service to landowners we work with so it is only a matter of time.