George Monbiot says eat meat, why aren't qms / nfu / eblex????
- Thread starter DrDunc
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Because they have been caught sleeping at the wheel, having over the last 70 years got away with having to do no more than say "don't criticise a farmer with your mouth full" and collect a gong on retirement.
They will now know behind closed doors they have been caught out big time, they know that the arguments as expressed on TFF about food miles, carbon sequestration etc are the new norm. They just haven't decided yet if they are big enough to publicly acknowledge this, and to recruit some serious new PR blood that is capable of getting that message across.
We know grazing livestock are good for the environment providing rich varied habitat and capturing carbon however it’s getting that message across.
Maybe the tide is turning.
Maybe the tide is turning.
So we pay their wages, but can't sack them for being incompetent?
That article is 9 years old?
See below for the latest thoughts
https://www.monbiot.com/2019/08/13/spectre-at-the-feast/
See below for the latest thoughts
https://www.monbiot.com/2019/08/13/spectre-at-the-feast/
AGN76
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FFS!
primmiemoo
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He's more gaunt now.
Saw him on Channel 4 News last week, and he doesn't look as well as he did in the op photo.
He’s undergoing treatment for prostate cancer, and has been quite open about it in his columns in the Guardian.
I missed that part myself. Thought he had seen the lightFFS!
His health aside, if there’s one thing about George Monbiots journalism, it’s that he likes to change his mind:
Goodbye – and good riddance – to livestock farming
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...tock-farming-artificial-meat-industry-animals
This was about the time he was on a big ‘Vegan’ crusade all over the media, which came to a head on breakfast TV when Piers Morgan called him a hypocrite for telling everyone else how to lead their lives, while turning up for the interview wearing leather shoes and a leather watch strap. George was not amused...
Goodbye – and good riddance – to livestock farming
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...tock-farming-artificial-meat-industry-animals
This was about the time he was on a big ‘Vegan’ crusade all over the media, which came to a head on breakfast TV when Piers Morgan called him a hypocrite for telling everyone else how to lead their lives, while turning up for the interview wearing leather shoes and a leather watch strap. George was not amused...
I would love to ask George how farmers are supposed to grow organic vegan crops, without bagged fert or animal manures. He’s exceptionally good at telling everyone what a bunch of barstewards farmers are, so wouldn’t it be nice if he’d do something positive and tell us all how should create fertility and feed the world:
The best way to save the planet? Drop meat and dairy
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...et-meat-dairy-livestock-food-free-range-steak
The best way to save the planet? Drop meat and dairy
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...et-meat-dairy-livestock-food-free-range-steak
primmiemoo
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Chasingmytail
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I saw him at the sythe festival 4 years ago and he looked half starved - def not built for any land working for sure.
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I wish I could have dragged every one of these eco warriors to Holkham yesterday
A Holkham employed Ranger explaining the diversity of habitat they are encouraging . They even stopped the calendar prescriptive dates on the HLS with Natural England AND increasing livestock numbers on the marshes to optimise ground cover
A livestock manager almost apologising for this Season’s grass growth getting away, funding other
native breeds that would thrive on the more challenged marshes, re introduced sheep for specific flora outcomes
It boils my pee that the armchair experts have no clue yet can do so much damage
A Holkham employed Ranger explaining the diversity of habitat they are encouraging . They even stopped the calendar prescriptive dates on the HLS with Natural England AND increasing livestock numbers on the marshes to optimise ground cover
A livestock manager almost apologising for this Season’s grass growth getting away, funding other
native breeds that would thrive on the more challenged marshes, re introduced sheep for specific flora outcomes
It boils my pee that the armchair experts have no clue yet can do so much damage
CharcoalWally
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He was on Channel four news just over a week ago and if I remember correctly, called beef and lamb farming in this country a "disaster. " So, presumably, he wants it ended. As is in the current zeitgeist, no ifs, no buts. No concessions for grass fed or otherwise. All gone.
The battle is really only beginning. It's going to be long and bloody.
The battle is really only beginning. It's going to be long and bloody.
Woolless
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A disaster? How did he justify that statement?
CharcoalWally
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He didn't really. It was just a flat assertion that grazing ruminants are environmentally disastrous. Bad for the environment don't you know. Overgrazing. Methane. Destruction of habitat. Fill in the gaps ourselves. The usual highly selected one sided argument that suits his agenda.
If I have this right then, George Monbiot's dietary advice timeline is as follows:
10 years ago: Eat no meat.
9 years ago: Eat meat, but only red meat.
Now: Eat no meat. Especially not red meat.
10 years, in planetary terms, is but a heartbeat. The science and the biosphere can't have changed in a heartbeat. Seems he's making it up as he goes along ?
Maybe the prudent thing to do would be to hedge your bets and eat meat and two veg ? I know, crazy idea, never catch on.
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A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
That's a big part of the problem - they don't have to because the journalists don't hold them to account by asking the right questions ( a lot of them seem to have the same agenda anyway).