Give this man a medal

[puppet]

You have a dairy and a milkround and the driver tells your customers that for fun they might be killed and their views are weird. How long would he last?
The editor was a salesman for Waitrose, not an independent food writer so had to go.

 

[puppet]

You miss the point, lots of people now eat vegan food without doing it full time. Lots of people are eating much less meat. It really isn't a fad. Vegan cafe's everywhere even in small market towns round here, go to London and have a look.

We all eat vegan food - lentils, beans and most fruits - but that is just part of a mixed diet. A vegan cannot be part-time

 

[Muck Spreader]

You have a dairy and a milkround and the driver tells your customers that for fun they might be killed and their views are weird. How long would he last?
The editor was a salesman for Waitrose, not an independent food writer so had to go.

He didn't exactly publish it the Waitrose mag. It was a private communication who the recipient decided to break trust on and make public.

 

[dolf_lundgren]

It was a bit sill what e did, but not really worth resigning over.

If he had merely pointed out that vegans make up 1% of the population and as such would recieve that share of the coverage then its not an issue. Even if he had made the point about militancy of vegans and not encouraging it to be associated with Waitrose. The words he chose were poor, although it suggests he knew the person well and it is sad the they obviously used a private email to effectively cost him his job.

However that is a big part of veganism, they see their beliefs as being more important that anything else and cant understand why everyone doesn't think like them. It is an ideology rather than a dietary choice. i agree it isn't going away and we need to learn to live and deal with it.

 

[puppet]

He didn't exactly publish it the Waitrose mag. It was a private communication who the recipient decided to break trust on and make public.

She wanted to put an article in his magazine which promoted Waitrose, he was not a friend, he responded without thinking so nothing private about that.

 

[mo!]

I can't imagine the journo will have much of a career after this. What editor is going to want to employ her knowing that every email they send might be tweeted to vegan pressure groups.

That said the editor should have been sacked for stupid comments. If he had told a Jew or Muslim that they should be hunted down for not eating bacon he would have been sacked and prosecuted.

 

[Muck Spreader]

She wanted to put an article in his magazine which promoted Waitrose, he was not a friend, he responded without thinking so nothing private about that.

Are you referring to the hypocritical fool Ms Nelson, who tweeted her approval at the deaths of seven people during the Pamplona bull festival?

 

[oil barron]

From the BBC website today. Surely they cannot publish this without facts to back it up. Can the NFU not sue them?

 

[Exfarmer]

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From the BBC website today. Surely they cannot publish this without facts to back it up. Can the NFU not sue them?

No it is not possible in the UK to sue for anything of this nature.

 

[oil barron]

No it is not possible in the UK to sue for anything of this nature.

Are you sure? I always thought the law on deformation and slander was stronger in the UK than in the US

 

[Exfarmer]

In the UK it is impossible for an industry as a whole to sue, different to the US .
For an industry to sue it has to show that every single member is in fact compliant or in this case could show that its meat did not cause more food miles than a vegetarian diet. The term food miles is so airy fairy that it would be impossible to prove.
In US courts whole industries csn take on individuals just as an individual can sue here. They would not have to prove every member was compliant.

 

[Dman2]

Just had a thought
When I become PM
Will they look through all my posts on here and hang me out to dry

 

[oil barron]

Just had a thought
When I become PM
Will they look through all my posts on here and hang me out to dry

Quite possibly. It is very hard to delete your social media history as proved by static when he requested this on this site but became visible on a tidy ploughing thread today

 

[unlacedgecko]

Quite possibly. It is very hard to delete your social media history as proved by static when he requested this on this site but became visible on a tidy ploughing thread today

What we do in life, echos in eternity.

 

[puppet]

Are you referring to the hypocritical fool Ms Nelson, who tweeted her approval at the deaths of seven people during the Pamplona bull festival?

Certainly not defending her views but why did he think that such a response to another journalist with well published views on vegetarian/vegan lifestyle was ever going to remain private.

 

[oil barron]

In the UK it is impossible for an industry as a whole to sue, different to the US .
For an industry to sue it has to show that every single member is in fact compliant or in this case could show that its meat did not cause more food miles than a vegetarian diet. The term food miles is so airy fairy that it would be impossible to prove.
In US courts whole industries csn take on individuals just as an individual can sue here. They would not have to prove every member was compliant.

Google group action. It is entirely possible for a group of individuals with a collective grievance to sue a company in the UK

 

[Exfarmer]

Google group action. It is entirely possible for a group of individuals with a collective grievance to sue a company in the UK

That is quite possible, but entirely different to this case, where a generalised statement is made against an industry. Group actions here are where individuals have suffered a demonstrable harm by the actions of an individual or company, such as a tumble dryer catching fire and subsequent loss of life and orr property.
For a class action to win in a case such as this, I believe that somebody would have to state specifically something along the lines of “ every single livestock farmer, is a sadist who treats his animals in a cruel fashion” then to win your action you would bring out a small group who you could demonstrably prove to court were not.
If they had said, and of course do “ the livestock industry is a cruel sadistic practice where animals are treated cruelly” they would only have to drag up video footage that we have seen of some very bad practice and the case would be chucked out of court.
It may be semantics but most of these people are very careful in there words. Of course occasionally sone will come out with far worse, but as MacDonalds found to their cost , sueing men of straw , achieves less than nothing and a lot of publicity for the other side

 

[oil barron]

That is quite possible, but entirely different to this case, where a generalised statement is made against an industry. Group actions here are where individuals have suffered a demonstrable harm by the actions of an individual or company, such as a tumble dryer catching fire and subsequent loss of life and orr property.
For a class action to win in a case such as this, I believe that somebody would have to state specifically something along the lines of “ every single livestock farmer, is a sadist who treats his animals in a cruel fashion” then to win your action you would bring out a small group who you could demonstrably prove to court were not.
If they had said, and of course do “ the livestock industry is a cruel sadistic practice where animals are treated cruelly” they would only have to drag up video footage that we have seen of some very bad practice and the case would be chucked out of court.
It may be semantics but most of these people are very careful in there words. Of course occasionally sone will come out with far worse, but as MacDonalds found to their cost , sueing men of straw , achieves less than nothing and a lot of publicity for the other side

I think the NFU could easily file a claim here. The difference from America is that everyone wanting to gain from the law suit has to be in at the start, whereas in America a law firm can sue on their own in a “class action” and then if successful individuals can then file claims based on the judgement. I think if during the case they proved that local food was better for the environment than vegetables from the other side of the world it would be a big win for British farming PR

 

[Exfarmer]

I think the NFU could easily file a claim here. The difference from America is that everyone wanting to gain from the law suit has to be in at the start, whereas in America a law firm can sue on their own in a “class action” and then if successful individuals can then file claims based on the judgement. I think if during the case they proved that local food was better for the environment than vegetables from the other side of the world it would be a big win for British farming PR

I am on your side, seriously, I agree 100% , but I know it would not work. worse it would give the vegans the opportunity to say any sort of rubbish in court and huge publicity

 

[oil barron]

I am on your side, seriously, I agree 100% , but I know it would not work. worse it would give the vegans the opportunity to say any sort of rubbish in court and huge publicity

They would have to stick to facts in court or that would be pergory wouldn’t it? Cliff Richard managed to sue them.